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  • DaNeutral.
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    #11
    Cagey, Fury Wlad like. Fury plans on doing just enough to snatch the rounds which leaves the onus on Joshua to either allow that to happen or try to force himself back in to the fight which brings us possibly to the telegraphing talk which again plays in to Furys hands.

    Ive predicted Fury on points, I'm not ruling Joshua out at all, he's braver than Wlad ever chose to be against Fury and he's alot smarter than Wilder and his none planned swingathon but its not guna be easy. Joshua needs to move as well as he ever has to try corner or close down Fury and he needs to make sure he stays in the fight points wise by not being too safe and too sporadic.

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      #12
      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
      Cagey, Fury Wlad like. Fury plans on doing just enough to snatch the rounds which leaves the onus on Joshua to either allow that to happen or try to force himself back in to the fight which brings us possibly to the telegraphing talk which again plays in to Furys hands.

      Ive predicted Fury on points, I'm not ruling Joshua out at all, he's braver than Wlad ever chose to be against Fury and he's alot smarter than Wilder and his none planned swingathon but its not guna be easy. Joshua needs to move as well as he ever has to try corner or close down Fury and he needs to make sure he stays in the fight points wise by not being too safe and too sporadic.
      So is Fury coming in at 250 pounds?

      I am not a big fan of ether fighter, that is why I can tackle this thread more subjectively.

      Why are people speaking as if, this 270 + pound Fury comes with all the old tricks? The last time Fury used his riddler style was during Wilder vs Fury I etc

      Tyson Fury is fighting Anthony Joshua, the same way he fought Wilder II 'Because Fury only wants to train a certain way, and it is working for him'.

      The Riddler style was probably a bi-product of Peter Fury.

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      • Gandhi
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        #13
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Cagey, Fury Wlad like. Fury plans on doing just enough to snatch the rounds which leaves the onus on Joshua to either allow that to happen or try to force himself back in to the fight which brings us possibly to the telegraphing talk which again plays in to Furys hands.

        Ive predicted Fury on points, I'm not ruling Joshua out at all, he's braver than Wlad ever chose to be against Fury and he's alot smarter than Wilder and his none planned swingathon but its not guna be easy. Joshua needs to move as well as he ever has to try corner or close down Fury and he needs to make sure he stays in the fight points wise by not being too safe and too sporadic.
        When did Joshua start telegraphing his punches apart from on rare two occasions against Wlad & Ruiz 1 after he was badly hurt, lethargic & on autopilot?

        A lot of you on here talk about AJ like you're talking about Wilder & make your whole argument about thing that happened ina few rounds in his career. And it just exposes your knowledge of boxing.

        I don't think most of you know what a telegraphed punch is.

        Most of you would go silent when he beats Fury. It won't be shocking because he has all the tools to beat Fury convincingly & it just depends on how he wants on the night. Fury is the same guy that was out on his feet in the 12th rd against Wallin apart from the cuts he suffered. Wallin wasn't just good enough to finish him off. And those opportunities are going to be there all night against AJ & it all depends on how he wants it.

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          #14
          Tyson Fury in every single press conference, will also attempt to intimidate Joshua.

          I disagree with all the posters here, who have stated that Fury will be cagey vs Joshua.

          Now this may be to his detriment, but I just don't think this new Fury wants to entertain his old riddler style etc

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          • Gandhi
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            Fury: keep it long & stick to the orthodox style throughout. Switching to southpaw might leave him open to a straight right. And with how AJ uses his right now, he doesn't want to be get caught with that. And hope he can win on point. But it won't be easy because AJ is an olympian & he also knows how to score points & win rounds.

            I believe with Wilder, he was able to come forward in the rematch because after he was KD in the 12th rd of the first fight, he saw the ***** in Wilder's armor when he pushed forward & he was able to hurt Wilder. That showed Wilder doesn't fight well when he's under pressure & he was able to beat Wilder based on that. Fury is a big tall lump with questionable chin & he's not a big hooker like Ruiz. So going forward against AJ is him basically begging to be knocked out with hooks & uppercut.

            AJ: he would've to take the center of the ring & cut the ring off, so he can tee off Fury at midrange. He beats Fury 9 out of 10 times with ease at midrange. He also should use his hooks & uppercut for most of the fight & hide his right hand until there's a clear opening for a massive punch.

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              #16
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
              So is Fury coming in at 250 pounds?

              I am not a big fan of ether fighter, that is why I can tackle this thread more subjectively.

              Why are people speaking as if, this 270 + pound Fury comes with all the old tricks? The last time Fury used his riddler style was during Wilder vs Fury I etc

              Tyson Fury is fighting Anthony Joshua, the same way he fought Wilder II 'Because Fury only wants to train a certain way, and it is working for him'.

              The Riddler style was probably a bi-product of Peter Fury.
              I can't imagine Fury going head on to Joshua like he did Wilder. Joshua has more to his game, can throw many more danger shots from many angles. I think Fury walking to AJ would be playing to Joshua's biggest strength when Fury is capable of tactics that take. Most of Joshua's strengths away.

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                #17
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                So is Fury coming in at 250 pounds?

                I am not a big fan of ether fighter, that is why I can tackle this thread more subjectively.

                Why are people speaking as if, this 270 + pound Fury comes with all the old tricks? The last time Fury used his riddler style was during Wilder vs Fury I etc

                Tyson Fury is fighting Anthony Joshua, the same way he fought Wilder II 'Because Fury only wants to train a certain way, and it is working for him'.

                The Riddler style was probably a bi-product of Peter Fury.
                Then he'll most likely end up on the canvass a few times before getting knocked out.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by miniq
                  The only tactic AJ has is to not be mentally shaken when the bell rings & to throw the kitchen sink at Fury.

                  Fury will step to AJ, AJ has to step to him in return. Not sit at range and let Fury dictate the pace of the fight.

                  Employ Wallin's gameplan and not let Fury gain any momentum.

                  This fight is won on Stamina, AJ hasn't got the stamina to match or handle Fury. Wlad didn't either which is why he didn't risk throwing shots he knew he'd miss.
                  I agree that Team Wallin's gameplan was good and could be harvested for ideas. AJ's more massive than Wallin, I think, so size-bullying him would not be as easy for Fury. But AJ's stamina could give out sooner. Trying to catch Fury up against the ropes and then working the body + some uppercuts, mid- or close-range. Kinda what Frazier did vs Ali, or what Mike Tyson would try to do. I don't think that's AJ's style, tho.

                  Were I Fury, I'd box AJ for some rounds, try to catch the moment AJ slows down and then go in with that pressuring style he used against Wilder.

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                  • brown_knight06
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                    #19
                    I got AJ winning by late tko. Coming forward, pumping his better jab and hopefully employing a body attack. I don't see fury taking AJs power.

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                    • PRINCEKOOL
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Gandhi
                      Then he'll most likely end up on the canvass a few times before getting knocked out.
                      Fury's old style was a bi-product of Peter Fury's, training and coaching etc

                      I don't think Fury wants to resurrect that area of his game 'Fury will fight Fury exactly how he fought Wilder'.

                      It may well be to his detriment, or Joshua could fall apart etc

                      I am more interested on what Joshua is going to do in this fight, because I am 90% sure of Fury's tactics.

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