Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Warns: Joshua Can't Afford To Telegraph Punches With Fury

[ShoulderRoll]

AJ better work on not telegraphing those punches. Fury will make him pay for it.

And we all know that one good, hard shot can short circuit Joshua.
He's more susceptible to it since he has gotten his brain rattled before.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Fairly simple. Firstly, Fury is far more likely to go on an extended hiatus if he wins and has shown no interest in facing up and comers. He has already said he won’t fight Usyk for one.

Secondly, AJ just has more crossover appeal, whatever way you look at it. I’ve been to his stadium fights and I’ve genuinely never seen such a diverse crowd of people at a boxing fight, men and women alike - this can only be good for boxing.

Related to the 2nd point, AJ is just more marketable, which brings more money to rest of the division - just look at the millions that opponent’s have made of him. For all of Fury’s talents, he still struggles to put bums on seats and the cancellation of his December homecoming is evidence of that. With AJ at the top, more people get fed - it’s as simple as that.

Joshua if he beats Fury, will continue until he has completely dominated the division Lewis & Kiltschko style 'He is already 40% of the way to that point' or at least Joshua will attempt to leave that kind of legacy.

Meanwhile Tyson Fury, I believe he may just retire if he wins against Joshua. I don't think Fury wants to be a great champion, because he seems not to honor the ideals of what makes a champion.

Tyson Fury seems to just make his own rules up i.e This guy is a dosser so, I don't need to fight him. This guy has been beaten by this guy, so I also don't have to fight him.

And all of the Fury Fanatics seemed to have created some sort of sub atomic reality, were Fury seems to absorb the achievements of other fighters 'People speak as if Fury has beaten Whyte, Povetkin and all of the guys who Joshua has beaten'.

Note: Make no doubt about it, I have Tyson Fury as favorite to beat Anthony Joshua. But I have been possibly the only person on these forums, who has insinuated that Fury 'Is not the same fighter he was before his comeback'. There are dimensions to Fury's game, that we don't see this 270 + pound Fury implement.

The last time Fury attempted to move in a fight was Wilder vs Fury I, since then? Fury has morphed into a different kind of fighter 'Fury was there to be hit vs Wallin, and he stood right in-front of Wilder who was all over the show'.

The fight between Joshua & Fury, will be determined by what type of Tyson Fury appears etc.

[KingOfGlory]

Tell me again how post jail Ali, green Foreman, and half blind Frazier comprised the "greatest era ever" in heavyweight boxing.

Oh wait Americans had a monopoly on the division so it had to be the best era ever. Boxing is the only sport where it's competitors don't get better with advancements and globalization.

Absolutely delusional.

[Monty Fisto]

A few thoughts of mine:

1. Fury will not begin 'kronk style'. Instead, we will see twitchy, evasive Fury for at least the first few rounds
2. This will actually suit Joshua, as it will allow him to manage his gas tank over the first few rounds
3. One possible path to victory for Fury is to exhaust Joshua by getting in close and leaning on him... But this comes with inherent danger. It opens up the risk of being clocked by the Joshua uppercut. I think exhausting Joshua in such a way would be an excellent tactic for Fury -- a tired Joshua is a neturalised Joshua -- but I'm not sure Fury will be willing to take on the risk (at least early in the fight or until he thinks he has nothing to lose in upping the risk).

Further discussion of point 1 above: I think 'Kronk style' is a bit of a misnomer for what we saw in Fury-Wilder II. The genesis of that strategy was in the final round of the first fight and it came out of part intuition, part desperation after that colossal knockdown. Almost instinctively, Fury went on the offensive... and discovered it worked much better than the previous strategy. This then became the plan in the second fight, but he only had the confidence to do it after what had happened in the 12th round of the first fight. I think he will be too wary of Joshua's power* to go straight into this style again.

*Or at least too wary that Joshua will be better than Wilder at fighting going backwards.

[ArturoBalboa]

A few thoughts of mine:

1. Fury will not begin 'kronk style'. Instead, we will see twitchy, evasive Fury for at least the first few rounds
2. This will actually suit Joshua, as it will allow him to manage his gas tank over the first few rounds
3. One possible path to victory for Fury is to exhaust Joshua by getting in close and leaning on him... But this comes with inherent danger. It opens up the risk of being clocked by the Joshua uppercut. I think exhausting Joshua in such a way would be an excellent tactic for Fury -- a tired Joshua is a neturalised Joshua -- but I'm not sure Fury will be willing to take on the risk (at least early in the fight or until he thinks he has nothing to lose in upping the risk).

Further discussion of point 1 above: I think 'Kronk style' is a bit of a misnomer for what we saw in Fury-Wilder II. The genesis of that strategy was in the final round of the first fight and it came out of part intuition, part desperation after that colossal knockdown. Almost instinctively, Fury went on the offensive... and discovered it worked much better than the previous strategy. This then became the plan in the second fight, but he only had the confidence to do it after what had happened in the 12th round of the first fight. I think he will be too wary of Joshua's power* to go straight into this style again.

*Or at least too wary that Joshua will be better than Wilder at fighting going backwards.

That’s an excellent breakdown, and i agree that the strategy for the second fight originated from the last round of the first fight.

It reminds me of how wards strategy for the second Kovalev fight was formed by his tactical adjustment of closing the distance in their first fight.

[ArturoBalboa]

Tell me again how post jail Ali, green Foreman, and half blind Frazier comprised the "greatest era ever" in heavyweight boxing.

Oh wait Americans had a monopoly on the division so it had to be the best era ever. Boxing is the only sport where it's competitors don't get better with advancements and globalization.

Absolutely delusional.

I don’t think you can argue that the heavyweight scene as a whole has been negatively effected in recent years by a total absence of a decent pool of US heavyweights, and this is coming from a Brit.

Yes globalisation is a good thing for boxing, but at the minute the two best heavyweights in the world come from an island with a population of 67 million, which is great for the U.K. but says a lot about the state of heavyweight boxing in the US.

I agree, we have made advancements in sports science but I think unfortunately now, America loses a lot of young, strong athletes to other sports.

There’s a lot more money to be made in organisations like the nba and nfl than there used to be and perhaps the lure of becoming rich without getting punched in the head for a living has had a huge effect.

[boxinglife8]

I don’t think you can argue that the heavyweight scene as a whole has been negatively effected in recent years by a total absence of a decent pool of US heavyweights, and this is coming from a Brit.

Yes globalisation is a good thing for boxing, but at the minute the two best heavyweights in the world come from an island with a population of 67 million, which is great for the U.K. but says a lot about the state of heavyweight boxing in the US.

I agree, we have made advancements in sports science but I think unfortunately now, America loses a lot of young, strong athletes to other sports.

There’s a lot more money to be made in organisations like the nba and nfl than there used to be and perhaps the lure of becoming rich without getting punched in the head for a living has had a huge effect.

You from blackburn england bro???

[ArturoBalboa]

You from blackburn england bro???

Yes I am my friend

[boxinglife8]

Yes I am my friend

Good explanation of the US boxing scene.Its just that i barely see any dedicated boxing fans in our town.Salute to you bro

[ArturoBalboa]

Good explanation of the US boxing scene.Its just that i barely see any dedicated boxing fans in our town.Salute to you bro

Cheers man, small world. I know what you mean, a few of my mates like boxing but mostly only casually and as a second sport to football.
Back at you mate.