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  • _Rexy_
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    #61
    Originally posted by Queen_Leia
    Charles Martin can.

    Again taking it from the champion and defending it successfully is where you earn the accolades.
    I never said he was a great champion. I just said he had a great boxing career.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Jersey Walcott
      Breazeale isn't better than the prime Stiverne.


      Stiverne won the world titel with authentic and very nice performance.
      He was on the level than Andy Ruiz todas and he lost his world titel on the same way against a taller fighter who avoided him in the ring and scored just with his jab.
      Stiverne should have 5 straight losses since his first loss to Wilder ,Derrick Rossy was robbed on the scorecards .After that one Stiverne took nearly 2 years off and then stepped back in with Wilder

      I don’t really see any fight to favor either guy ,Stiverne has one of the worst resumes Ive seen to as a heavyweight champion.

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      • Queen_Leia
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        #63
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        I never said he was a great champion. I just said he had a great boxing career.
        So winning a vacant world title against a past prime fighter and then losing it in your next defense is a great boxing career.

        Okay, buddy 🤣🤣🤣

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        • Mmann2e
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          #64
          Originally posted by Queen_Leia
          Charles Martin can.

          Again taking it from the champion and defending it successfully is where you earn the accolades.
          The can-man oh no wait that's Adrien Broner

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            #65
            Originally posted by _Rexy_
            Former world heavyweight champion. How you gonna say he didn’t have a great career?
            So everybody who is once in his life for a second one of 64+ actual champions, has a great career?

            Good to now.

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            • Jersey Walcott
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              #66
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              Stiverne should have 5 straight losses since his first loss to Wilder ,Derrick Rossy was robbed on the scorecards .After that one Stiverne took nearly 2 years off and then stepped back in with Wilder

              I don’t really see any fight to favor either guy ,Stiverne has one of the worst resumes Ive seen to as a heavyweight champion.

              Yes, because Stiverne was actually old when he won the heavyweight title. He was 35 years old that was a late part of his career.

              He had the same size than for example Samuel Peter had.. And Peter was 2 years younger (!!) than Stiverne.
              And what happened with Peter? Peter's substantive career ended fast 10 years ago...

              If Peter lost very lightly against Pulew just in 3 rounds he was 35 years old...

              For the smaller guys is very important the skills, the reflexes, the handspeed, therefore they couldn't be so competitive so old than the taller guys.

              See David Haye's career, Odlanier Solis's career.
              Exception is a bit Povetkin, but hidden Povetkin stays the full russian chemical industry.. let's be honest

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              • Jersey Walcott
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                #67
                Originally posted by _Rexy_
                I never said he was a great champion. I just said he had a great boxing career.

                What means "great champion"?

                Stiverne was a legit champion, that's it.

                Samuel Peter won the WBC-titel too, all people should respect that Peter was a very good fighter.
                But he couldn't win James Toney who was originally a welterweight champion...

                And Stiverne and Peter sparred eacht other and Stiverne seemed to be always the more skillful fighter

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                  #68
                  The last punch didn't even land... He took a blatant dive Bermane S, but who can blame him?

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                  • Jersey Walcott
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                    #69
                    Stiverne got tired. This match wasn't a dive.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Jersey Walcott
                      Yes, because Stiverne was actually old when he won the heavyweight title. He was 35 years old that was a late part of his career.

                      He had the same size than for example Samuel Peter had.. And Peter was 2 years younger (!!) than Stiverne.
                      And what happened with Peter? Peter's substantive career ended fast 10 years ago...

                      If Peter lost very lightly against Pulew just in 3 rounds he was 35 years old...

                      For the smaller guys is very important the skills, the reflexes, the handspeed, therefore they couldn't be so competitive so old than the taller guys.

                      See David Haye's career, Odlanier Solis's career.
                      Exception is a bit Povetkin, but hidden Povetkin stays the full russian chemical industry.. let's be honest
                      Stivernes best win is Ray Austin on that criteria ,I’m nor sure where we’re supposed to gage how good Stiverne was .

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