Why was Andrade to boring for Canelo but Saunders isn't?

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  • -Kev-
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    #41
    Andrade hasn’t really done himself any favors with his performances vs the “best” names on his resumes.

    Vanes Martirosyan - Decision (Good win)
    Maciej Sulecki - Decision
    (Good win)
    Grady Brewer - Decision
    Freddy Hernandez - Decision
    Jack Culcay - Decision
    Alantez Fox - Decision

    Let me put it like this. Imagine Mayweather’s best 130 wins looking like this:

    Diego Corrales - Decision
    Genaro Hernandez - Decision
    Jesus Chavez - Decision
    Angel Manfredy - Decision
    Emmanuel Augustus - Decision
    Carlos Hernandez - Decision
    Tony Pep - Decision

    Floyd is called boring, yet he managed 21 KO’s in 27 Super Featherweight fights.

    Imagine Floyd never “Gatti’ed” Gatti at 140, imagine he UD’ed him in a lackluster performance where he shut him out 120-108 while running away from him.

    Okay, Floyd is obviously pretty weak past 130. But he absolutely crushed opponents at 130. Super Featherweights never stood a chance against him.

    Why do I bring up Floyd? Because Andrade pulled out of a fight thinking he can be worth a lot of money like Floyd or Pacquiao. Problem is these fighters that young fighters try to copy their business blueprint, put in their work for a decade before they were demanding big bucks and picking and choosing who they fight.

    Andrade did that without ever making a name for himself. Now he finally made a name for himself due to his 20-fans fanbase claiming he is ducked and he is the guy to beat.

    Fans should be crying for the best to fight the best. Not for the best to fight the unknown and untested. Saunders is way more tested than Andrade at the top level.

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    • Scopedog
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      #42
      I kinda do want to see a BJS fight though, so I can see Saunders lose, preferably by KO. I don't particularly like Canelo but I hate Saunders.

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      • HewJohnson
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        #43
        BJS is a bit more of a bigger fight for Canelo than Andrade.

        Nobody is checking for Andrade.
        Not even black people.

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        • HewJohnson
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          #44
          Originally posted by -Kev-
          Andrade hasn’t really done himself any favors with his performances vs the “best” names on his resumes.

          Vanes Martirosyan - Decision (Good win)
          Maciej Sulecki - Decision
          (Good win)
          Grady Brewer - Decision
          Freddy Hernandez - Decision
          Jack Culcay - Decision
          Alantez Fox - Decision

          Let me put it like this. Imagine Mayweather’s best 130 wins looking like this:

          Diego Corrales - Decision
          Genaro Hernandez - Decision
          Jesus Chavez - Decision
          Angel Manfredy - Decision
          Emmanuel Augustus - Decision
          Carlos Hernandez - Decision
          Tony Pep - Decision

          Floyd is called boring, yet he managed 21 KO’s in 27 Super Featherweight fights.

          Imagine Floyd never “Gatti’ed” Gatti at 140, imagine he UD’ed him in a lackluster performance where he shut him out 120-108 while running away from him.

          Okay, Floyd is obviously pretty weak past 130. But he absolutely crushed opponents at 130. Super Featherweights never stood a chance against him.

          Why do I bring up Floyd? Because Andrade pulled out of a fight thinking he can be worth a lot of money like Floyd or Pacquiao. Problem is these fighters that young fighters try to copy their business blueprint, put in their work for a decade before they were demanding big bucks and picking and choosing who they fight.

          Andrade did that without ever making a name for himself. Now he finally made a name for himself due to his 20-fans fanbase claiming he is ducked and he is the guy to beat.

          Fans should be crying for the best to fight the best. Not for the best to fight the unknown and untested. Saunders is way more tested than Andrade at the top level.


          This is spot on.

          And it also explains why these guys aren’t getting paid Floyd or Pacquiao paychecks either.

          PAC was getting like $20M each at one point.

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          • Caxcan
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            #45
            Canelo referred to him as boring but also pointed out that he hadn't fought anyone. BJS is a far more intriguing matchup. Ironically, it was Andrade who refused a fight against an actual proven guy specifically because he claimed he was boring, saying he'd avoid then super champ Lara to face Culcay for a paper belt. Andrade has gone out of his way to avoid step up fights but somehow his few fans pretend to be surprised about his lack of resume.

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            • PeepeePoopooMan
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              #46
              Most likely the ring will be small as hell so bjs movement wont give him that much problems. They dont like fighters like that. Hell they ducked monroe jr after he beat rosado

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              • El_Maldito_Rey
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                #47
                Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                Please don't come in here acting like people have ever been excited to see a BJS fight.

                Canelo vs Andrade for the undisputed middleweight championship of the world but he chose to attempt to fight his mandatory Dervy instead. Got stripped then left the weight class.

                I understand the BJS fight is for a belt but he's boring too and the Andrade fight would've been undisputed.
                Easiest way for Andrade to get the Canelo fight in September is to go up and fight Plant in May. It's that simple.

                Why doesn't Andrade or Charlo want to do that? Why won't they make power moves already? Why do they think Canelo will go down chasing them.

                It's on them to make the moves. It's no secret Canelo is going for the 168 belts. BJS has one and Plant has one. Canelo already made a deal with Eddie Hearn.

                Now it's on Charlo and Andrade to get the Plant fight in May if they really want the Canelo fight in September.

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                • -Kev-
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Caxcan
                  Canelo referred to him as boring but also pointed out that he hadn't fought anyone. BJS is a far more intriguing matchup. Ironically, it was Andrade who refused a fight against an actual proven guy specifically because he claimed he was boring, saying he'd avoid then super champ Lara to face Culcay for a paper belt. Andrade has gone out of his way to avoid step up fights but somehow his few fans pretend to be surprised about his lack of resume.
                  I didn’t know he refused to fight Lara as well. Damn. That’s Charlo and Lara now. Those would have been good names to add to his resume. He really bombed his own career.

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                  • ShaneMosleySr
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                    #49
                    Doesn’t matter.

                    He’s British and fighting Canelo.

                    The whole country is behind him now and they’ll all buy the fight on PPV.

                    Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
                    Lol no he doesn't. He's never been a big name in British boxing. Two fights ago he was on the undercard of Luke Paul

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                    • KillaMane26
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                      #50
                      BJS had a better chance at 154.....

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