It has begun,boxing is officially a circus started by Floyd

[The D3vil]

Actually it's called ignorance from people that don't know boxing history. Retired boxers or even active boxers fighting exhibitions are not new and they do nothing to harm boxing.








Mayweather has earned the right to fight exhibitions just from the fact that he's retired. Ryan Garcia's situation can't be compared to Mayweather. That in itself is ******.

Boxing was the undisputed king of sports back then, not a joke that's already seen as 1 step above professional wrestling as it is now.

A lot of fights were fixed back then too.

We live in a different world now.

Kids aren't even caring about boxing anymore. They're going immediately to MMA.

Boxing's probably the 10th most popular sport in America now.

It can't afford to be seen as lesser than other sports now.

[R-Hand Southpaw]

I can debate with Big Dunn on some things. I can agree to disagree with that guy, I think he’s OK tbh.

It’s that Joseph guy, keeps trying to say “I’m ignorant” cause we see things differently. It’s just not worth continually going back and forth cause we ain’t gonna come to an agreement. He’s made me laugh though, reminds me of the Michael Jackson sketch off South Park.

I wouldn't even give BigDunn anything. He only seems okay because he isnt as dumb as the other bottom of the barrel garbage because he knows how to play the politics.

Hes no different than the worst offenders here when it comes to what he really believes.

[blowblow]

I can debate with Big Dunn on some things. I can agree to disagree with that guy, I think he’s OK tbh.

It’s that Joseph guy, keeps trying to say “I’m ignorant” cause we see things differently. It’s just not worth continually going back and forth cause we ain’t gonna come to an agreement. He’s made me laugh though, reminds me of the Michael Jackson sketch off South Park.

let them be. they're just trolling with us.. we know who really has the knowledge in boxing.

[Marchegiano]

I can debate with Big Dunn on some things. I can agree to disagree with that guy, I think he’s OK tbh.

It’s that Joseph guy, keeps trying to say “I’m ignorant” cause we see things differently. It’s just not worth continually going back and forth cause we ain’t gonna come to an agreement. He’s made me laugh though, reminds me of the Michael Jackson sketch off South Park.

That's ignorant!

[Marchegiano]

It's already been pointed out so I'll just add to what Eff and others have said.

Long history with cross over and exhibitions goes back at least to 484, but probably before then too. The whole no sex before a fight deal comes from a guy who whooped everyone in the combat sports of the first century. A boxer who whooped wrestlers n ****.

Bare Knuckle's whole form of promotion was exhibitions. Roll into town and take on the men about town. Pay them just to do well, if they can. That's why Sully was a bar clearer. His era's mixed, some modern ideas, some BK ideas.

Alright, here's a pretty big one. Dempsey, Louis, Ali, noted already. Did you know Jeffries not only put on exhibitions but went soft on a guy once and so the press ran with the story of the champ being shown up by some bummer. Champ Jeff then gives the guy an actual title shot. Yo, Anoki or whatever the ****, Ali's guy, did not fight for the HW world title. ****'s ****ing fine.

[The Big Dunn]

As I read through this thread it's as if people really think Floyd started fighting in 2007. I get a lot of you hate Floyd for whatever reasons. That said, how can you fault him for elevating himself from a fighter who couldn't draw to the cash cow of the sport and the biggest earner of all time.

When Floyd embraced the Money persona, he also started to utilize social media to boost his brand. He expertly took advantage of the 24/7 ODH and HBO set up to promote that fight.

None of you will admit it but you thought the things Floyd was doing wouldn't work and now that it has you're mad that it did. Maybe you guys should talk to your favorite fighters about doing things to build their brand.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

None of you will admit it but you thought the things Floyd was doing wouldn't work and now that it has you're mad that it did. Maybe you guys should talk to your favorite fighters about doing things to build their brand.

Not at all...

I’ve never criticised Floyd’s enterprise. He played the game better than anyone.

[The Big Dunn]

Not at all...

I’ve never criticised Floyd’s enterprise. He played the game better than anyone.

OK. I think you get my point.

Whether it's 24/7, picking the right team, use of social media etc. Floyd built his brand expertly. He also had the skills and boxing talent to back it up, something people forget. Broner, for example, was on the way to building his brand successfully with his schtick but he didn't have the talent or skills to last.

Innovators get the glory while those too afraid to try anything get left behind. Floyd has created another revenue stream for retired great fighters who historically have no revenue streams once they are retired.

Floyd, ODH, Tyson are outliers. Most of them struggle to find any gainful employment.

I honestly don't see how this hurts the sport.

[Marchegiano]

Not at all...

I’ve never criticised Floyd’s enterprise. He played the game better than anyone.

Following the convo a bit, I've a question for you only loosely related.

Do you not think it's about time, what with the internet and all, boxing stops selling lies? It's not a glorious sport. It's not a scientific sport. Even if we hide all the exhibitions and act like it's some kind of gentleman's sport it's not as if google doesn't give it all away in very short time.


I mean, there was once one lord who fought once. He cheated. That's his legacy. Doesn't take much to break the facade.

So, I get you, the circus **** is circus **** and steals from the glorification bull****, but, the glorification is bull**** and all it takes to figure that out is looking.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Following the convo a bit, I've a question for you only loosely related.

Do you not think it's about time, what with the internet and all, boxing stops selling lies? It's not a glorious sport. It's not a scientific sport. Even if we hide all the exhibitions and act like it's some kind of gentleman's sport it's not as if google doesn't give it all away in very short time.


I mean, there was once one lord who fought once. He cheated. That's his legacy. Doesn't take much to break the facade.

So, I get you, the circus **** is circus **** and steals from the glorification bull****, but, the glorification is bull**** and all it takes to figure that out is looking.

I don’t really understand the question tbh man. Boxing at its purest can be a glorious sport but the lack of governance makes it open to exploitation and corruption.

An old coach of mine used to say boxing is an honourable sport filled with dishonourable people.