Can any active fighter end up being the GOAT?

[LA_2_Vegas]

I really can't see fury reaching that status. Beating an old Klitschko and idiot wilder doesn't mean much. Not to say he doesn't have skill but this era of hw is trash

He won't have the names but if he can convince people over time that he would be a hell of a fight for anyone I'd take that. Accomplishing that in a "weak hw era" where Ali and others are so ingrained in the minds of people as the GOATs would be a feat.

[Earl-Hickey]

It's going to be hard because people always put the older generations up on a pedestal. Example is they will give current champ like Joshua **** for a mandatory vs Pulev yet they will never talk about Ali's many title defences vs guys Pulev would murder.

Theres a huge double standard, someone would have to have basically a perfect career to be considered.

[NearHypnos]

Canelo has the Mayweather loss and 2 close GGG fights. He also failed a drug test which makes it almost impossible for him to be considered the best ever

Lets play devils advocate and remove our bias here.


The greatest have all lost. Hell, some people may find greatness in that loss since he dared that young and even though it didnt go his way, he only became more impressive after and it did not damage his psyche. He was also exonerated by the same people he “failed” the test from but people only like accepting the part of the story that they like. If we accept the failure by them, we should also accept the exoneration. And almost every great fighter has needed those close fights against men as good as them.

I think he has the best chance right now and the opposition in range. We’re just hating if we can’t admit that if he becomes undisputed and fights some of these guys and wins that we have to start talking about it. He’s already reaching really rare heights.

Pacquiao has a decent chance because he has Bud and Spence in range. It would be nothing short of absolutely insane if he pulled that off. It seems way too unlikely though but it’s possible

[kingstip9]

Canelo Alvarez has the chance 2 be an AtG and GOAT status if he runs the table. Fighting champions
BJS
Charlo
Andrade
Plant
Bena
Maybe Bivol
Spence
Berlanga
And maybe another 3 or 4 fights. Only losing possibly 1

Canelo goat ? fkn lol

[just the facts]

pacquiao is now hailed as the GOAT of the 21st century.

Not by anyone credible.........

[Robi13]

If Pacquiao beats Spence and Crawford and goes to 160 and beats Canelo... goat

[PeepeePoopooMan]

He won't have the names but if he can convince people over time that he would be a hell of a fight for anyone I'd take that. Accomplishing that in a "weak hw era" where Ali and others are so ingrained in the minds of people as the GOATs would be a feat.

Yeah, no. Nobody aside from Klitschko who was old comes close to anyones resume from the 90s let alone Ali's. Idk wtf your smoking but lay off it. Furys resume is trash. Idk why thats hard for you to accept. Not his fault the division itself sucks

[DeeMoney]

No.

Now thats not to say one shouldnt, but unlike other sports so much of boxing is anecdotal (as opposed to stats that support an individual's accomplishments). So no matter how much a guy wins or how good a fighter is, the curmudgeon get off my lawn crowd can always claim fighters were tougher back in the day, when society was more difficult and made men tougher. And thus the greats of yesteryear will always be better, and thus the GOATs

Add in the fact that fighters like Greb, SRR, Armstrong, Langford fought far more often, allowing for more impressive resumes- and you see why the GOAT in boxing is firmly entrenched. Though someone may come along greater, they wont get the full recognition as such

[MikeyMike100]

No.

Now thats not to say one shouldnt, but unlike other sports so much of boxing is anecdotal (as opposed to stats that support an individual's accomplishments). So no matter how much a guy wins or how good a fighter is, the curmudgeon get off my lawn crowd can always claim fighters were tougher back in the day, when society was more difficult and made men tougher. And thus the greats of yesteryear will always be better, and thus the GOATs

Add in the fact that fighters like Greb, SRR, Armstrong, Langford fought far more often, allowing for more impressive resumes- and you see why the GOAT in boxing is firmly entrenched. Though someone may come along greater, they wont get the full recognition as such

Agreed. This is exactly what I was getting at when I made this thread. Well said.

[Blueboy3]

Really its only Pacquiao atm, if he goes undisputed at welter