Furys belt collection is getting silly

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

That's fair on the FOTY, yes it is, and yes both those performances are impressive. About 1/3 the HW champs become FOTY twice or more.

The x2 champ though is less so. He won both of his two title fights and got stripped between them for sitting on ass. No, no one ever did that before. Plenty have more than two title fights though. That's the one that's a bit Pacish because it's alone but it's also a bit of semantics. Especially from a lot who talks so much about never losing X in the ring.

FOTY x2 or more:
Louis
Marciano
Charles
Patterson
Johanson
Ali
Frazier
Foreman
Tyson
Holyfield

Defences are obviously important, that’s why we rate guys like Louis so highly cause he consistently beat top 10 guys.

One reason I consider winning the Ring title twice impressive though is it means you beat the #1 in the division twice, or were the #1 and beat the #2 in the division twice. Defences generally won’t come against the #2 guy, in the modern era they regularly don’t even come against a top 15 guy.

I do agree Fury needs to add at least a few defences to his resume before he retires though if he wants to be compared to the greats historically.

Defences are about context I think. For example Wladimir defended the ring belt against absolute scrubs like Leapai, an old Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach etc. On paper they count the same as Ali’s defences against Patterson, Norton, Frazier etc.

In the modern era I feel defences have lost prestige as they can be a against some real sh**ty fighters. As we were saying the other day, look at some of the mandatories Wlad had during his reign, just complete trash.

[Zaryu]

Tyson Fury is the man!

[Marchegiano]

Defences are obviously important, that’s why we rate guys like Louis so highly cause he consistently beat top 10 guys.

One reason I consider winning the Ring title twice impressive though is it means you beat the #1 in the division twice, or were the #1 and beat the #2 in the division twice. Defences generally won’t come against the #2 guy, in the modern era they regularly don’t even come against a top 15 guy.

I do agree Fury needs to add at least a few defences to his resume before he retires though if he wants to be compared to the greats historically.

Defences are about context I think. For example Wladimir defended the ring belt against absolute scrubs like Leapai, an old Mormeck, Pianeta, Wach etc. On paper they count the same as Ali’s defences against Patterson, Norton, Frazier etc.

In the modern era I feel defences have lost prestige as they can be a against some real sh**ty fighters. As we were saying the other day, look at some of the mandatories Wlad had during his reign, just complete trash.

Great post bud, I don't disagree with anything said here.

[nino brown21]

All those belts from just two fights.

How's he got 4 Ring Belts?

Exact same question I had lol . wtf should have only one maybe 2

[kafkod]

All those belts obtained in a single division,

Fury is a boss.

Anybody from 200lbs to infinity ...

[kafkod]

I think it's only fitting that he should vacate the WBC title if he is not going to defend it against Deontay Wilder or Dillian Whyte. I believe that Wilder should drop his suit against Fury and just request that he relinquishes that WBC title belt in exchange or return. I think that's a fair compromise. He entered title less and then he should exit title less.

[Lonelystoner]

Robert Easter Jr has more title defenses than Fury lol

[Gandhi]

Mostly irrelevant belts. Lennox Lewis never won a single fighter of the year belt from Ring Magazine & he’s the best HW in the last 4-5 decades. Let that sink in.

Belts with zero titles defenses is pretty useless.

[PRvazquez]

Fury is just a great white hope I cant wait till he gets KOd. He needed Wilder to prove he was great. Now you same people are saying Wilder is a bum and needs to retire? It goes both ways man

[removed]

Robert Easter Jr has more title defenses than Fury lol

Fury has defended his lineal title multiple times.

But yeah, a few defences of the belts would help his legacy, but if he beats AJ he's the best HW of this era hands down.