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  • ShaneMosleySr
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    #1

    Heavyweight mandatories are embarrassing

    These are the guys who are currently in the lead to be named as a mandatory challenger to the winner of Fury-Joshua:

    Oleksander Usyk, who was just pushed to the brink by a journeyman, is the WBO mandatory.

    Charles Martin who was destroyed by Anthony Joshua and was outboxed by Adam Kownacki is the highest ranked IBF contender.

    The two highest ranked WBA contenders are regular champion Manuel Charr, who might not crack the top 10 at Cruiserweight and Trevor Bryan, who might be one of the least inspecting undefeated young heavyweights out there.

    The WBC interim champion is Alexander Povetkin, whos 50 years old and lost by KO in a title challenge about two years ago.

    Basically, we should be preparing for the winner to have to face Wilder and Ruiz... but instead we’re waiting for Charr, Martin and Bryan.
  • Robbie Barrett
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    #2
    Wilder and Ruiz lost title fights in their last fights. They should have to do something to get into a mandatory position.

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    • _Rexy_
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      #3
      Usyk boxed Chisora with a game plan, wore him down in the opening rounds and then dominated the latter half of the fight. I don't see how people keep saying he went "life and death" or "pushed to the brink" when he literally did what Mayweather did in most of his 147/154 fights.

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      • buddyr
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        #4
        Originally posted by _Rexy_
        Usyk boxed Chisora with a game plan, wore him down in the opening rounds and then dominated the latter half of the fight. I don't see how people keep saying he went "life and death" or "pushed to the brink" when he literally did what Mayweather did in most of his 147/154 fights.
        Usyk did not look good in winning his last fight. He did indeed win, but it was anything but dominating fashion.

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        • KingOfGlory
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          #5
          It would be a lot more tolerable if:

          1) These guys were fighting 3-4 times a year instead of 1-2
          2) The mandatories were forced to defend their status while they wait.
          3) Unifications usurped any mandatory defenses

          A man can dream.

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          • sicko
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            #6
            Just not a Deep Division I don't know WTF we should expect in this Divisions

            I mean it is a reason why Kevin Johnson and Eric Molina keep getting calls for fights because it is not a Deep Divisions AT ALL. So yeah you will see Fighters work their way right back up to Mandatory even after defeats because it is just not much in the Division at the moment

            I don't get the complaint about Usyk Either. He was Undisputed at Cruiserweight. Everybody who jumps up in Weight and relinquish their Belts usually jumps the line and is put in position for a Shot at the Champion almost Immediately so why should it be any different for Usyk at Heavyweight
            Last edited by sicko; 01-20-2021, 09:54 PM.

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            • edgarg
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              #7
              Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
              These are the guys who are currently in the lead to be named as a mandatory challenger to the winner of Fury-Joshua:

              Oleksander Usyk, who was just pushed to the brink by a journeyman, is the WBO mandatory.

              Charles Martin who was destroyed by Anthony Joshua and was outboxed by Adam Kownacki is the highest ranked IBF contender.

              The two highest ranked WBA contenders are regular champion Manuel Charr, who might not crack the top 10 at Cruiserweight and Trevor Bryan, who might be one of the least inspecting undefeated young heavyweights out there.

              The WBC interim champion is Alexander Povetkin, whos 50 years old and lost by KO in a title challenge about two years ago.

              Basically, we should be preparing for the winner to have to face Wilder and Ruiz... but instead we’re waiting for Charr, Martin and Bryan.
              Come on, give the guy a break. He's had only 2 losses, both to champions. The KO you mention was by Joshua, and his previous loss was to Klitschko, 5 years ago; the two top heavyweights. The others you mention ar pretty gruesome.

              What's an inspecting heavyweight?? These guys don't bear inspection-not as fighters anyway..

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              • DaNeutral.
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                #8
                Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                These are the guys who are currently in the lead to be named as a mandatory challenger to the winner of Fury-Joshua:

                Oleksander Usyk, who was just pushed to the brink by a journeyman, is the WBO mandatory.

                Charles Martin who was destroyed by Anthony Joshua and was outboxed by Adam Kownacki is the highest ranked IBF contender.

                The two highest ranked WBA contenders are regular champion Manuel Charr, who might not crack the top 10 at Cruiserweight and Trevor Bryan, who might be one of the least inspecting undefeated young heavyweights out there.

                The WBC interim champion is Alexander Povetkin, whos 50 years old and lost by KO in a title challenge about two years ago.

                Basically, we should be preparing for the winner to have to face Wilder and Ruiz... but instead we’re waiting for Charr, Martin and Bryan.
                So your complaint is all these losers lined up for mando shots should really actually be Wilder and Ruiz? 2 losers?

                Its not great but its not a deep division, it is what it is and there is talent coming through, its just not quite got to the surface yet.

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                • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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                  #9
                  The vast majority of this that isn’t factual.

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                  • Marchegiano
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                    #10
                    I'm a bit frustrated for Shane reading this thread.

                    Semantics? Y'all want to use semantics to rationalize the top five of every official ranking board has some sad ass contenders in there?

                    What were the mandos ver the past 15 years y'all feel ought to have been? Mormeck earned his shot did he? Martin and Glaz had earned them a vacant fight had they?

                    All I really got out of this is Shane saying the mandos are **** when they don't have to be and in response a bunch of ****ty semantics. Ok, so some of them are contenders not yet named mando....oooo....that changes the fact that in the past 15 years most mandos and other forms of sanctioned positioning have been pretty ****ty despite better fighters being active and available.


                    How long's Pov been active? How long has Pov been top ten? How many title fights has Pov been in? Alright. Shane's got a damn fine point. How many guys debuted after Pov was already a top ten HW, fought no top ten HWs, and got themselves a mando before anyway? Alright, Shane's got a ****ing point.

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