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  • #31
    The winner of this fight will be making history in the world of boxing. It is good if the WBC franchised the winner. Other sanctioning bodies should do same

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
      This is absolutely awful news. The WBO is screwing the former undisputed 'Cruiserweight' champion of the world. I thought that they treated their own champions moving up in weight better than this!

      If Oleksandr decided to take step-aside money, I would be disappointed in Usky. So now the HW division is at a complete stand-still, the WBO knows that Joshua and Fury have a rematch clause -- what the hell are they thinking promising the 'Interim' a shot?!

      There is a law-suit coming from Deontay Wilder and even more rematch clauses with another mandatory. Thanks a lot WBO, just when I was about to commend them for not participating in handing-out secondary titles, they become corrupt by money, like the WBA and WBC.
      Holding forth for Wilder right? Truly, no one has Wilder's interest at heart as you, not even Wilder. Your loyalty is legendary

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Oshio View Post
        Holding forth for Wilder right? Truly, no one has Wilder's interest at heart as you, not even Wilder. Your loyalty is legendary
        My concern is for Oleksandr Usyk, I assure you that I never considered Deontay Wilder's interest, when assessing these disturbing revelations by the WBO. But I like to clear up a couple statements that I made in the moment.

        I have given this alarming political matter further consideration, and you know what? Maybe this is for the best for Usyk ( not for the heavyweight division ) : with this official ruling by the WBO, the WBO HW championship is now in fact splintered in two, so that means Oleksandr Usyk will be HW world-champion this year, at the same time as the winner of Joshua-Fury.

        This is the price that Joshua-Fury had to pay to fabricate a phony 'undisputed' PPV. This unfair ruling invalidates Joshua and Fury's 'unification' for undisputed, thats too bad.

        Nevertheless, I believe Hearn and Arum will likely push for Joshua-Fury before Usyk-Joyce, because the unsettling truth will hurt PPV sales. Its very clear that if Usyk-Joyce happens BEFORE Joshua-Fury, the truth will become apparent to the public. The average casual will figure this out ; '' Hey! Isn't Usky the champion of the WBO? I saw him beat Joe Joyce! '' they will say, and then the public will come to the obvious conclusion, that Joshua-Fury is NOT for 'undisputed'.

        But even if Joshua-Fury happens before Usyk-Joyce, in principle, the WBO has made its ruling and the WBO is divided in two, so whatever comes first Joshua-Fury or Joyce-Usyk, its all the same.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
          My concern is for Oleksandr Usyk, I assure you that I never considered Deontay Wilder's interest, when assessing these disturbing revelations by the WBO. But I like to clear up a couple statements that I made in the moment.

          I have given this alarming political matter further consideration, and you know what? Maybe this is for the best for Usyk ( not for the heavyweight division ) : with this official ruling by the WBO, the WBO HW championship is now in fact splintered in two, so that means Oleksandr Usyk will be HW world-champion this year, at the same time as the winner of Joshua-Fury.

          This is the price that Joshua-Fury had to pay to fabricate a phony 'undisputed' PPV. This unfair ruling invalidates Joshua and Fury's 'unification' for undisputed, thats too bad.

          Nevertheless, I believe Hearn and Arum will likely push for Joshua-Fury before Usyk-Joyce, because the unsettling truth will hurt PPV sales. Its very clear that if Usyk-Joyce happens BEFORE Joshua-Fury, the truth will become apparent to the public. The average casual will figure this out ; '' Hey! Isn't Usky the champion of the WBO? I saw him beat Joe Joyce! '' they will say, and then the public will come to the obvious conclusion, that Joshua-Fury is NOT for 'undisputed'.

          But even if Joshua-Fury happens before Usyk-Joyce, in principle, the WBO has made its ruling and the WBO is divided in two, so whatever comes first Joshua-Fury or Joyce-Usyk, its all the same.
          Usyk will only become the full WBO champion if the winner of Joshua v Fury does not face him after their bout, at which stage Joshua or Fury will have to relinquish the WBO championship. Until that stage Usyk or Joyce will merely hold a trinket... clue in the name being 'interim'.

          You know this anyway so i'm not sure why i'm actually bothering. Bored I guess.

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          • #35
            WOW! Guys, I just forgot, Alexander Povektin is ALSO a 'Interim' World-champion by the World-Boxing-Council. That makes another world-champion and another mandatory, great job WBO!

            YEY!!! UNDISPUTED!!!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 1hourRun View Post
              This is not for the 'undisputed' HW champonship of the world, the jokes on the public : when Oleksandr Usyk captures the 'Interim' WBO title, he has a valid claim to the thrown and more importantly a portion of the crown. Sorry boys, history will not recognize this as a 'undisputed' fight.

              But hey, I know that SKY and ESPN will tell you otherwise, like they been telling you that Teofimo Lopez is 'undisputed' HA!
              Translation: I hate the thought of a Brit becoming the undisputed champion over my fraudulent hero, Ducktay Whiner. So I'll (just this once) put some stock in an interim title and bitterly claim it's relevant.

              That translation really wasn't necessary, your bitterness is plain as day and oozing from your comment like the red stuff from Ducktay Whiner's lip and ear after the demolition he suffered at the hands of the Gypsy King.

              I knew there would be some Wildettes crying about this news; it's just another nail in the coffin of the lacking and protected career of Ducktay Whiner

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bronx23 View Post
                Wilder should just fall back, rack up a few highlight reel knockouts, start yelling “im back”, and draw an interest for a shot at the winner. Nobody wants to see a trilogy with Fury RIGHT NOW but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a demand for it in the future. A loss isn’t the end of the world Pac-Man is living proof
                Pac is an all time great fighter. P4p one of the best ever. Wilder was an over rated champ and he will not return to his previous perch.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Oshio View Post
                  The winner of this fight will be making history in the world of boxing. It is good if the WBC franchised the winner. Other sanctioning bodies should do same
                  No, no, and fúck no. That's not good at all and other sanctioning bodies should not do that.

                  The WBC Frenchfries is a joke. First off it was a non-transferable, honorary title that could not be won or lost in the ring, with the only way of obtaining it being through multiple defences of a WBC title. Then it quickly became a non-transferable, honorary title that could not be won or lost in the ring that is awarded to fighters with minimal or no WBC title defences who the WBC viewed as great (popular). And now it's a non-transferable, honorary title that is awarded to fighters who the WBC view as great (popular) with minimal or no WBC title defences, that can be won and lost in the ring...if you apply for and are granted a special exception for the title to be transferable

                  It's an absolute joke and a simple money grab scheme. And all this coming from the guy (Sulaimoney) who stated that unified champions are essentially hindered due to there being too many world titles, so he creates a new world title

                  Give it a few years and the WBC Frenchfries title will become exactly the same as the WBA Super. Mo' money, mo' problems.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Deus View Post
                    Usyk will only become the full WBO champion if the winner of Joshua v Fury does not face him after their bout, at which stage Joshua or Fury will have to relinquish the WBO championship. Until that stage Usyk or Joyce will merely hold a trinket... clue in the name being 'interim'.

                    You know this anyway so i'm not sure why i'm actually bothering. Bored I guess.
                    So according to you, up until Joshua-Fury vacate the WBO title, Oleksandr will become a 'full' world-champion? So does that mean that the winner of Usyk-Joyce will be for a world-title? I mean you can only compete for championship against a ranked opponent, or the champion must forfeit his crown.

                    I think we all know that Hearn and Arum are just buying this 'Undisputed' title for marketing purposes, this is not about titles, Tyson Fury has proven he does not care about them, as the IBF stripped this bum earlier in his career.

                    When will you people learn? Its all a bunch of lies and deception in this corrupt division.
                    Originally posted by Squared.Circle View Post
                    Translation: I hate the thought of a Brit becoming the undisputed champion over my fraudulent hero, Ducktay Whiner. So I'll (just this once) put some stock in an interim title and bitterly claim it's relevant.

                    That translation really wasn't necessary, your bitterness is plain as day and oozing from your comment like the red stuff from Ducktay Whiner's lip and ear after the demolition he suffered at the hands of the Gypsy King.

                    I knew there would be some Wildettes crying about this news; it's just another nail in the coffin of the lacking and protected career of Ducktay Whiner
                    'Undisputed' with multiple 'interim' champions at the same time, this is probably he first time this has happened in the HW division, leave it up to Tyson Phooey to cause all this chaos.

                    The honor of 'undisputed' only means something when you can keep it, Joshua-Fury are just using this term to add value to their sham PPV, in a few weeks they will be stripped! Oleksandr Usyk or Terence Crawford did not lose their honor as 'Undisputed' because they moved up in weight to seek greater challenges. Only in this dreadful polluted division can such a honor can become meaningless.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by vitali1999 View Post
                      Pac is an all time great fighter. P4p one of the best ever. Wilder was an over rated champ and he will not return to his previous perch.
                      Exactly this. And Pac actually beat multiple current, former, and future world champions. Legitimate top ranked opponents. Ducktay Whiner has beat Luis Ortiz and is rumoured to be fighting Charles Martin. What an absolute legend!!!

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