Comments Thread For: The Greatest Encore: Ranking the Best Heavyweights Since Ali

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So don't include Rahman even though he has wins over Sanders and Lewis, because he's a one hit wonder, but you list Leon, Shavers (Didn't even get the decision over Ali in his one good win. Has nothing of substance other than that fight) Mercer, Norton, and the likes of Berbick?

That's your capabilities to debate? Make a fool out of yourself? Haha.

Tyson was still a good fighter, just not a very good one or great. His win over Golota was good, so it kept him in the good win column.

Briggs getting smacked about dropped all over the place and Vitali getting stopped after his face was falling off are bad stoppages? No, you're just desperate as this hideous post clearly shows.

Homes has 8 good wins, with one of those wins coming against the same guy in Shavers. None of them are very good or great.

Lewis however...

Holyfield x2 both ATG wins.
Klitschko Great win
Tua good win
Grant good win
Mercer good win
Morrison good win
Mavrovic good win
Ruddock good win
Rahman good win
McCall good win
Tucker good win
Briggs good win
Golota good win
Bruno good win

I give 1 point for a good world class win. 2 points for a very good win. 3 points for a great win. 4 points for an ATG win.

Holmes has 8 to Lewis' 23 points. That's over twice as good as his resume. It's not even up for debate. All you can do is get desperate and make a fool of yourself. But thanks for the laughs anyway. You really made me chuckle.

Fine I would take spinx off the list but you have to take Bruno and rahmen off. There’s no way you’re American ( maybe your bias ) speaking like this. Like I said klitschko was a bad ref call and everbody knows it. This is clearly favoritism. Boxingscene already supports my view had Holm’s being #1 after Ali. You’re are showing how lennex built his career off a old Tyson , his weak jaw and Rid**** Bowe being a coward.
Shannon Briggs really ? Smdh.
Half of these guys wouldn’t last in Holm’s era and that’s a fact.

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Fine I would take spinx off the list but you have to take Bruno and rahmen off. There’s no way you’re American ( maybe your bias ) speaking like this. Like I said klitschko was a bad ref call and everbody knows it. This is clearly favoritism. Boxingscene already supports my view had Holm’s being #1 after Ali. You’re are showing how lennex built his career off a old Tyson , his weak jaw and Rid**** Bowe being a coward.
Shannon Briggs really ? Smdh.
Half of these guys wouldn’t last in Holm’s era and that’s a fact.

I already took Spinks off as he's nothing but a joke who beat a shot Ali and then lost the title to an even more aged Ali. After that he became everyone's punchbag.

Bruno and Rahman are good wins. Why would i take them off?

I'm British. Can't you tell by the fact i'm not an idiot who is there to be laughed at?

Go and tell anyone you can about Vitali being a bad stoppage. They'll laugh at you hard. As am i.

You mean an idiot writer on BoxingScene who really shouldn't be writing on subjects they're clearly out of their depth on?

Lennox built his career by having the very best resume in Heavyweight history. It's the whole content, not just a few fights.

Lennox never had a weak jaw. What ever makes you think that nonsense? I'm happy to debate you there as well but i'm not sure you can take any further embarrassment.

They wouldn't last in Homes' era, but fighters like Shavers, Berbick, Witherspoon, and Cooney could? Hahaha. Thanks again for the laughs. Do you usually inspire these kind of reactions when you speak? Or is everyone in your environment the same level of intelligence?

Please look up the definition of the word "Fact". You'll clearly see you don't understand it. Fact.

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I already took Spinks off as he's nothing but a joke who beat a shot Ali and then lost the title to an even more aged Ali. After that he became everyone's punchbag.

Bruno and Rahman are good wins. Why would i take them off?

I'm British. Can't you tell by the fact i'm not an idiot who is there to be laughed at?

Go and tell anyone you can about Vitali being a bad stoppage. They'll laugh at you hard. As am i.

You mean an idiot writer on BoxingScene who really shouldn't be writing on subjects they're clearly out of their depth on?

Lennox built his career by having the very best resume in Heavyweight history. It's the whole content, not just a few fights.

Lennox never had a weak jaw. What ever makes you think that nonsense? I'm happy to debate you there as well but i'm not sure you can take any further embarrassment.

They wouldn't last in Homes' era, but fighters like Shavers, Berbick, Witherspoon, and Cooney could? Hahaha. Thanks again for the laughs. Do you usually inspire these kind of reactions when you speak? Or is everyone in your environment the same level of intelligence?

Please look up the definition of the word "Fact". You'll clearly see you don't understand it. Fact.

Nahh I am good. Even Lennox knows he’s chinny. That jab saved his career and Bruno is a euro bum.

Rahmen is trash. I still stand on what I said. That vitali stoppage was bad. Lennex fat out of shape self was badly winded.

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What do you mean by "love the comments towards Vitali and Lennox though"?

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Nahh I am good. Even Lennox knows he’s chinny. That jab saved his career and Bruno is a euro bum.

Rahmen is trash. I still stand on what I said. That vitali stoppage was bad. Lennex fat out of shape self was badly winded.

Nah, you're deluded and getting wiped out in this debate.

Lennox doesn't know he's chinny because he wasn't. Go and watch the video on YT about Lennox having a good chin. he took many big shots without even blinking. The McCall shot was due to stepping in from too far out. But the ref stopped it. He wasn't given a chance. Even the HBO commentators couldn't believe it. And anyone gets knocked out like he did with Rahman because of the altitude problem. Everyone was talking about it the week leading into the fight. It saps all your energy.

Bruno was good. If you call a fighter a bum with the achievements of Bruno, you'll pretty much have to put a cross through Holmes' entire career to be fair. Bruno was better than most he fought and beat.

Rahman was good too. Same applies like it does for the Bruno breakdown.

Only desperate people claim it was a bad stoppage. Most of Vitali's fans agree the fight should have been stopped. And you know how they can be. Right?

Sorry, but you're talking madness. It's like me saying Paulie Malignaggi was better than Ray Robinson. Lennox is head and shoulders above Holmes. In any normal persons mind who know what they're talking about. Which you clearly don't.

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1. Lewis
2. Evander
3. Fury
4. Vitali
5. Wlad

Fury will be number 1 on that list when all is said and done though. Maybe

1. Holmes
2. Foreman
2. Lewis
3. Evander
4. Fury
5. Vitali
6. Wlad

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Lennox has the best heavyweight wins next to Ali......weaver, mercer ,Morrison , Bruno ,Holyfield ,Tyson ,V klitchcko , tua ,Briggs , golota and many others.
Lewis really did prove himself at the very top and arguably is the greatest ever along with Ali

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Lmao. He has Fury at # 4.
Fury's career comprises a dull win over a sleepwalking Wlad, and a win over a hype job.
The rest is Sefer Seferi and Tom Schwartz types. This guy Fury has been hyped through the roof.

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Nah, you're deluded and getting wiped out in this debate.

Lennox doesn't know he's chinny because he wasn't. Go and watch the video on YT about Lennox having a good chin. he took many big shots without even blinking. The McCall shot was due to stepping in from too far out. But the ref stopped it. He wasn't given a chance. Even the HBO commentators couldn't believe it. And anyone gets knocked out like he did with Rahman because of the altitude problem. Everyone was talking about it the week leading into the fight. It saps all your energy.

Bruno was good. If you call a fighter a bum with the achievements of Bruno, you'll pretty much have to put a cross through Holmes' entire career to be fair. Bruno was better than most he fought and beat.

Rahman was good too. Same applies like it does for the Bruno breakdown.

Only desperate people claim it was a bad stoppage. Most of Vitali's fans agree the fight should have been stopped. And you know how they can be. Right?

Sorry, but you're talking madness. It's like me saying Paulie Malignaggi was better than Ray Robinson. Lennox is head and shoulders above Holmes. In any normal persons mind who know what they're talking about. Which you clearly don't.

So I guess boxingscene is wrong too? Ok lol. Lennox highlights will forever be getting folded by rahmen , Rod**** ducking him and beating up on a old Tyson.

Holm’s defended his title against 19 fighters, the second most in history behind Joe Louis and the most since the international expansion of the world heavyweight title.Holmes is one of only five boxersalong with Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick to defeat Muhammad Ali; he is the only one to have stopped Ali. Granted Ali was old.

Holmes won his first 48 professional bouts, including victories over Norton, Ali, Earnie Shavers, Mike Weaver, Gerry Cooney, Tim Witherspoon, Carl Williams and Marvis Frazier.

Now Bruno , Briggs and rahmen are C/ B- list fights

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So I guess boxingscene is wrong too? Ok lol. Lennox highlights will forever be getting folded by rahmen , Rod**** ducking him and beating up on a old Tyson.

Holm’s defended his title against 19 fighters, the second most in history behind Joe Louis and the most since the international expansion of the world heavyweight title.Holmes is one of only five boxersalong with Joe Frazier, Ken Norton, Leon Spinks and Trevor Berbick to defeat Muhammad Ali; he is the only one to have stopped Ali. Granted Ali was old.

Holmes won his first 48 professional bouts, including victories over Norton, Ali, Earnie Shavers, Mike Weaver, Gerry Cooney, Tim Witherspoon, Carl Williams and Marvis Frazier.

Now Bruno , Briggs and rahmen are C/ B- list fights

Boxing Scene? What do you mean? So a load of extreme bitter Americans say slanderous and demeaning things about him to play him down? What is new when it comes to British fighters? You insecure weirdos have done it for decades. All of it bullshlt that you get put in your place over. The internet is full of dumb Americans playing that game but getting put straight by Brits. You only have to follow me on here to see this. YT comments is full of it. You overate garbage and cast it down as the best when it's no such thing.

Where Robinson's highlights getting beaten by Turpin? Fullmer? Basillio? Of course not. Well, if you were poisonous and wanted to play someone down due to bitterness you'd say such reta3ded shlt. Congratulations.

Anyone saying Lennox's highlights is this is beyond desperate.
Accept it, he beat everyone of your guys and had them running like cowards. He'd beat every Heavy in history head2head. He has the best resume in history. Deal with it.

Holmes has a handful of good wins. I'm not dis*****g that. But i don't care about defences if they're against bums. Johnny Nelson made 15 defences of his Cruiserweight title. But guess what? They were against bums. So anyone with a few good wins gets rated higher by me. I'm all about substance, not statistics that have no real meat to them.

Holmes is also one of only a few to lose to a former LightHeavyweight champ.

His win over Ali is complete worthless. He was so shot he should never have been allowed in a boxing ring. The fact you bring that up as some kind of accomplishment for Holmes clearly shows how weak his resume is for so many world title fights. He also never unified either.

I know Rahman and Bruno are B level fighters. Most of every Fighters resume in history at world level is over B level fighters. But Marvis Frazier is C level. And you may want to check that Williams win out. The rest that are legit for Holmes, they're ALL B level wins. Not a single A level elite fighter there. To suggest so makes you incredibly delusional. But i already knew that after reading your shlte.