Comments Thread For: Thurman To Arum: Stop Talking Sh-t! Not My Fault You Can't Afford Fight For Crawford

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Khan was promoted by Matchroom. Khan wanted it and Eddie had no problem making it. Al trying to get in the way of their wishes wouldn't have gone down well.

But he did NOT get in their way! That's the point!

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Exclusive: Al Haymon Willing To Work With Any Boxing Promoter

Following the recent lawsuit from Oscar De La Hoya’s Golden Boy Promotions against boxing manager and Premier Boxing Champions chief Al Haymon getting dismissed by a federal judge in court, we caught up with his Vice President of Communications at PBC – Tim Smith.

Boxing News and Views spoke with Smith this week on the phone.

Starting off in our conversation I asked him now that the lawsuit has been dismissed will there be more potential for Al Haymon and Oscar De La Hoya to work together in the future.

Smith went into detail on the subject:

“I think the fallacy that was put out by various people, you know, Al Haymon has never had a problem working with other promoters. Let me put it this way. Two of Canelo Alvarez’ last three opponents have been Haymon managed boxers. That being Amir Khan and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (in May 2017). Does that sound like Al Haymon has a problem working with Golden Boy?”

Touching on fights that Haymon has made in the past and upcoming in 2017, Smith continued:

“Considering that Canelo Alvarez is their cash cow, if Al Haymon had a problem working with Golden Boy I don’t think he’d be helping them out with their cash cow. Part of the fallacy I think on the part of people that have agendas against PBC, against Al or whatever, is to make him out to be the bogeyman. To say: ‘Oh he doesn’t want to work with anybody. He doesn’t want to make fights with anybody.’ But you look at the fights that he’s made. He’s made fights with (promoter) Bob Arum, Terence Crawford fought (Haymon managed) John Molina just back in December(2016). You know, GGG (middleweight champion Gennady Golovkin), he’s made fights through GGG’s people – Tom Loeffler. (Haymon manged) Danny Jacobs is fighting Golovkin on a HBO pay per view March 18th.”

He added:

“It just seems like people buy into a narrative without any investigation or understanding of what’s going on. Al is making fights with people. He’s never stopped making fights with people. As a matter of fact, the only discussion of anybody saying they weren’t going to do business with Al, wasn’t from Al, it came from Arum back a few years ago at the same time the guy from HBO Ken Hurshman said he wasn’t going to do any more business with Golden Boy or Al Haymon. You never heard Al Haymon saying: ‘I’m not doing any business with HBO or I’m never going to do business with anybody.’ It’s always been a one sided kind of thing where people have said they would not do business with Al.”

He concluded:

“Al’s never said he’s not going to do any business with
anybody because that would bring harm to his clients. Why would he do that? Why would he harm his clients? He’s supposed to be working in their best financial interest. So you can’t close off a door and say your not going to work with anybody.”

https://www.boxingnewsandviews.com/2.../22/al-haymon/

We've already acknowledged that Haymon is willing to set up fights with big stars against fighters he doesn't really care about. But when it comes to putting his "Stars" up, the fight then becomes the biggest problem.

Trying to convince fans who know what Haymon is about isn't going to go well for you. We just feel sad that you're still fighting a lost fight. You're a part of the cult. You're brainwashed.

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But he did NOT get in their way! That's the point!

He didn't get in the way because he didn't really care about Khan. Khan wasn't in any of his bigger plans the way others are. Therefore you don't make any point other than ******ity.

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He didn't get in the way because he didn't really care about Khan. Khan wasn't in any of his bigger plans the way others are. Therefore you don't make any point other than ******ity.

He cared about that fight getting made, and it got done! Just like Hearn got Khan a shot at Crawford! That's your BS again! He didn't care about Khan, Ruiz, Jacobs, etc.! The fights got done, and most of the time his fighter went to other networks too!

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We've already acknowledged that Haymon is willing to set up fights with big stars against fighters he doesn't really care about. But when it comes to putting his "Stars" up, the fight then becomes the biggest problem.

Trying to convince fans who know what Haymon is about isn't going to go well for you. We just feel sad that you're still fighting a lost fight. You're a part of the cult. You're brainwashed.

Haymon cares about all his fighters! You don't constantly see him in court like Arum and King! You don't see his fighters threatening to sue him like Mikey and Manny did! You don't see him disrespecting his star fighters like Arum did Rigo and Crawford! You overlook all of that because you are not only brain washed, but brain dead too!

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He cared about that fight getting made, and it got done! Just like Hearn got Khan a shot at Crawford! That's your BS again! He didn't care about Khan, Ruiz, Jacobs, etc.! The fights got done, and most of the time his fighter went to other networks too!

Haymon could afford to put Jacobs in with G because he would have controlled Middleweight had he won. Jacobs wasn't one of the big boys in his mind. Plus, he saw G getting on in age so he could be quids in. It just didn't work out.

Ruiz had just come on board. With Ruiz asking for it for big money, it would have got out that he was the problem had he talked to the press. He hoped Ruiz could do the job Martin, Molina and Brezeale failed to do by beating AJ and protecting his main pleb in Wilder in the process. He wasn't willing to let Wilder try. Nor was Wilder willing to try even if he was on board. He's a coward to his core. He never wanted the fight. But it didn't stop Al throwing as many of his other Heavies at AJ with hope in mind to eventually control the division.

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Haymon cares about all his fighters! You don't constantly see him in court like Arum and King! You don't see his fighters threatening to sue him like Mikey and Manny did! You don't see him disrespecting his star fighters like Arum did Rigo and Crawford! You overlook all of that because you are not only brain washed, but brain dead too!

Another strawman argument. When did i defend Arum or King in all this? When was this my argument? Never.

You keep trying these tactics and exposing yourself. But you're too ****** to listen no matter how many times i tell you.

This is an example of brain dead and brain washed.

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Another strawman argument. When did i defend Arum or King in all this? When was this my argument? Never.

You keep trying these tactics and exposing yourself. But you're too ****** to listen no matter how many times i tell you.

This is an example of brain dead and brain washed.

This thread is about Thurman and Arum! Thurman talking about Arum's dirty ways! You haven't said a damn thing about Arum, but you have all kinds of issues with Haymon! All I keep showing you is how Haymon keeps coming through, and all you keep doing is repeating BS! Haymon has been, and will be, making fights happen! Your hate is blinding you to this fact!

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Haymon could afford to put Jacobs in with G because he would have controlled Middleweight had he won. Jacobs wasn't one of the big boys in his mind. Plus, he saw G getting on in age so he could be quids in. It just didn't work out.

Ruiz had just come on board. With Ruiz asking for it for big money, it would have got out that he was the problem had he talked to the press. He hoped Ruiz could do the job Martin, Molina and Brezeale failed to do by beating AJ and protecting his main pleb in Wilder in the process. He wasn't willing to let Wilder try. Nor was Wilder willing to try even if he was on board. He's a coward to his core. He never wanted the fight. But it didn't stop Al throwing as many of his other Heavies at AJ with hope in mind to eventually control the division.

Jacobs was big enough to give Haymon control of the MW division, but Al didn't really care about him? See how ****** you sound! The fact is the deal got done, and Loeffler praised Haymon because he worked with him TWICE! Wade, Jacobs, and Dervy all fought GGG, on whatever platform GGG fought. GGG has yet to be on a PBC card, yet you still see Haymon as the problem! GTFOH with that BS!

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This thread is about Thurman and Arum! Thurman talking about Arum's dirty ways! You haven't said a damn thing about Arum, but you have all kinds of issues with Haymon! All I keep showing you is how Haymon keeps coming through, and all you keep doing is repeating BS! Haymon has been, and will be, making fights happen! Your hate is blinding you to this fact!

Go and see my first post on page 10 to see why it became about Haymon.

We are in agreement that King and Arum are scum. Al however is worse than both. At least King and Arum made the big fights most of the time at the right time. When the hell does Haymon do that?

I don't doubt Haymon will make certain fights. But the ones that really matter, he doesn't. You don't just have to be blind to not see. You have to be dumb and brainwashed too. I get it, he's black and so are you. But you really have to wake up. To be this silly all the time isn't healthy.