Comments Thread For: Manager: Pacquiao or McGregor Would Beat Mayweather in Rematch

[CubanGuyNYC]

Two words: Who cares?

[b Murphington]

I'm not doing it to be spiteful like a hater would. I do it because it's the truth. I'm not going to be treated like a mug because he wants to pull the wool over my eyes and convince me he was honourable in going after the best to prove his words of "TBE" when it clearly isn't true. He didn't do it with just 2-3 fights, he did it with most of his career. No way will i see him like real greats who wanted to truly prove themselves the right way and paid the price for it. They earned their reputations like warriors. Floyd went about it like an entitled coward who picked them at their weakest. Fights that should never have come off just kept on coming. But the fights that needed to happen to prove his words weren't hollow always had as many roadblocks he could muster put before them.

Sorry, this isn't a charity. You want the credit? Earn it properly. If you want to play around and think i won't see the difference, then that's on him. If he can't accept the truth being put to him, then he shouldn't have done what he did all the time. Floyd has the reputation he deserves. I won't see it any other way other then what it was. Smoke and mirrors.

Was he great? Absolutely. Was he as great as he wants us to see him as? Not even close. He had the skill, but not the heart and mind. It's a shame, but it is what it is. He had the pick of those fights whenever he wanted them. Many great fighters never had that choices he had so had to scrap and climb just to get some big fights so they could prove their worth. Not Floyd, they were there pretty much from the get go. And he let them pretty much all go when they mattered.

But you speak like he got that from day one. He didn’t. Yeah he came from a boxing family and he definitely did have it better than a lot, but he still had to work hard to get to where he got and he needed the talent and skill to do so.

There’s a lot of cases of guys coming from boxing families who didn’t have that kind of success. Cory Spinks didn’t have a better career than Michael Spinks. Aaron Pryor Jr definitely didn’t have a better career than his father. Let’s not even mention JCC jr. I’m sure these guys were in better positions than your average boxer. JCC jr being the perfect example of a guy who had everything handed to him. But Mayweather was the goods.

Yeah after I wanna say after De La Hoya, that’s when he became the A side, but he still had to work to get to that point. But like you said, De La Hoya was super close I remember it could have gone either way. If the decision did go to De La Hoya, I think Mayweather’s career would’ve looked much different. Maybe he would’ve had to go up against someone like Margarito or Paul Williams and not have much say in that. He might have lost in those hypothetical fights. Idk.

I think the biggest issue that people get upset about is him claiming to be “TBE” which isn’t true and quite arrogant.

[BodyBagz]

May needs to be retired for another 5 years for those rematches to be remotely competitive.

[Sid-Knee]

But you speak like he got that from day one. He didn’t. Yeah he came from a boxing family and he definitely did have it better than a lot, but he still had to work hard to get to where he got and he needed the talent and skill to do so.

There’s a lot of cases of guys coming from boxing families who didn’t have that kind of success. Cory Spinks didn’t have a better career than Michael Spinks. Aaron Pryor Jr definitely didn’t have a better career than his father. Let’s not even mention JCC jr. I’m sure these guys were in better positions than your average boxer. JCC jr being the perfect example of a guy who had everything handed to him. But Mayweather was the goods.

Yeah after I wanna say after De La Hoya, that’s when he became the A side, but he still had to work to get to that point. But like you said, De La Hoya was super close I remember it could have gone either way. If the decision did go to De La Hoya, I think Mayweather’s career would’ve looked much different. Maybe he would’ve had to go up against someone like Margarito or Paul Williams and not have much say in that. He might have lost in those hypothetical fights. Idk.

I think the biggest issue that people get upset about is him claiming to be “TBE” which isn’t true and quite arrogant.

What has coming from a boxing family got to do with anything? I judge him the way i do anyone else. Doesn't matter their background.

It started very well for Floyd, but that close fight for him against Castillo the first time round changed him and made him become a lot more selective with his opponents where he cherry picked the weak and ran from the strong. It's the truth regardless of A side or family situations.

I had Floyd by a point in the Oscar fight. He deserved the decision. No problem with the scoring in that one or the fact he fought him to become bigger. But it's what he did after the fact he became bigger that i have a big problem with. So should you for the sake of fair and proper sporting competition. It's about the integrity of it all. Without it it all becomes about a bunch of cowards who bully weaker foes for gain which is just pathetic to do and witness. That isn't sport. It's fraud and cowardice. The sport suffers for it and becomes even weaker, not stronger.

[b Murphington]

What has coming from a boxing family got to do with anything? I judge him the way i do anyone else. Doesn't matter their background.

It started very well for Floyd, but that close fight for him against Castillo the first time round changed him and made him become a lot more selective with his opponents where he cherry picked the weak and ran from the strong. It's the truth regardless of A side or family situations.

I had Floyd by a point in the Oscar fight. He deserved the decision. No problem with the scoring in that one or the fact he fought him to become bigger. But it's what he did after the fact he became bigger that i have a big problem with. So should you for the sake of fair and proper sporting competition. It's about the integrity of it all. Without it it all becomes about a bunch of cowards who bully weaker foes for gain which is just pathetic to do and witness. That isn't sport. It's fraud and cowardice. The sport suffers for it and becomes even weaker, not stronger.

When you said “ Many great fighters never had that choices he had so had to scrap and climb just to get some big fights so they could prove their worth. Not Floyd, they were there pretty much from the get go.” That led me to believe you meant that he had everything handed to him because of him being a Mayweather. But he still had to work to get to the top.

[thedarkdragon11]

Delusions...

[Sid-Knee]

When you said “ Many great fighters never had that choices he had so had to scrap and climb just to get some big fights so they could prove their worth. Not Floyd, they were there pretty much from the get go.” That led me to believe you meant that he had everything handed to him because of him being a Mayweather. But he still had to work to get to the top.

No, i don't mean that. I mean the big fights were on offer to him any time he wanted them. He just had to click his fingers and they'd be signed up on contract. Other fighters were ducked like crazy and had to struggle to get named fighters into a ring. Floyd didn't. He decided to go the easy root instead with fighters that made no sense when the fights he should have took were right there for him. The fans wanted them. The other fighters wanted it. Floyd didn't. That's just the truth, man.

[Roadblock]

No, i don't mean that. I mean the big fights were on offer to him any time he wanted them. He just had to click his fingers and they'd be signed up on contract. Other fighters were ducked like crazy and had to struggle to get named fighters into a ring. Floyd didn't. He decided to go the easy root instead with fighters that made no sense when the fights he should have took were right there for him. The fans wanted them. The other fighters wanted it. Floyd didn't. That's just the truth, man.

Go and look at Floyds career from the beginning, you people are casuals to this sport .

[HewJohnson]

PAC beat him the first time

[Sid-Knee]

Go and look at Floyds career from the beginning, you people are casuals to this sport .

I watched Floyd's career from the start. So what am i supposed to be watching? Are you dis*****g the many ducks and cherry picks from Floyd after the close one with Castillo?

Floyd even took 2 years "Holiday" when Welter was hot. he waited until they beat each other up and lessened themselves before he came back. He then took on a Lightweight in Marquez.

I know what i'm talking about. You don't if you dispute anything i wrote.