Comments Thread For: Joshua-Fury: Hearn Wants Second Fight in Cardiff, But Says Pressure May Stop It

[Monty Fisto]

Some of those rules i am in favour of i am glad you point this out i want to go now

Maybe you'll be accused of witchcraft and you can use the defence "witchcraft doesn't exist" and it won't work because of course that's what a sorcerer would say.

[Ray*]

Pretty sure the middle east the tax is low , like pocket change . Dont care where they have it , were all locked down in Britain so just get the fight done and give us something to look forward to . have it on the moon for all i care just fight

True, whether it happens in the UK or not I would not be there, and millions of people wouldn’t too. As long as we all have a device to watch it on then bring on the fight.

[thack]

The middle east will probably be where these guys can make the most .....I get that. I just feel a fight of this magnitude belongs in a country and stadium where the fans ( if not British) will shout and sing and give these two the atmosphere they deserve. We've seen Saudi and that was hopeless.....But if Hearn gets his way then Saudi it will be! Hearn would find this a lot more difficult to sell here under 'normally' circumstances so don't be drawn in by his fake sadness he couldn't be happier massive site fee given and still **** the suckers with a massive PPV cost ...good old Edward.

[Marchegiano]

How'd you work that one out? Yes there both British, but also English.
Tyson Fury: Born 12/08/1988, Manchester, England.
Anthony Joshua: Born 15/10/1989, Watford, England.
I think that make's them both English!!......

It's a bit confusing but since I'm American I just let it go and dgaf.

Joe Calzaghe was born in London. We call him Welsh though.

[Marchegiano]

Not sure what planet you are on.

They are both English. Welsh people don't say they are British. Scottish people don't say they are British. Northern Irish people don't say they are British.

Morecambe and Watford are both in England.

Doesn't British mean from Great Brittany? It's full UK? Never heard the Irish lumped in with the rest of the Brits before.

What about Manx? British? Or just Manx?

Why don't I ever heard about Cornish folk like they're different from English folk?

interesting over there to say the least.

[Monty Fisto]

Doesn't British mean from Great Brittany? It's full UK? Never heard the Irish lumped in with the rest of the Brits before.

What about Manx? British? Or just Manx?

Why don't I ever heard about Cornish folk like they're different from English folk?

interesting over there to say the least.

This may be confusing as it is complex but...

There is the British Isles, a geographical name which encompasses two sovereign nations.

The first is the Republic of Ireland.
The second is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

The island of Ireland contains the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland.

Politically, there is all sorts of shenanigans that is far too complicated to run through in any deserving detail. Who ran what has largely been decided by conquest, most notably the Normans who arrived in 1066. Not only did they capture the throne of England but they grabbed loads of Ireland too. And in the 12th century, the pope ˋgave' Ireland to the English king. The English annexed Wales in the 13th century. Queen Elizabeth died without an heir in the 17th century and the King of Scotland (James) ascended the English throne, so that he was king of England (and its annex Wales), Scotland and Ireland. In the 18th century Queen Anne went from this position (Queen of England, Ireland and Scotland) to Queen of Great Britain and Ireland when she created an official union between Scotland and England. In the 19th century there was a further official union creating the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

In the 20th century, Ireland fought a war of independence and seceded from the union, but also at this time, Ireland was partitioned into Northern Ireland and Ireland, both part of an Irish free state. Then Northern Ireland opted out and rejoined the Union: the urrent United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Island.

Because of the strong national identity (I want to pluralise this, but the forum censors half of it!), people within the UK consider themselves to be English, or Scottish, or Welsh, or Northern Irish (and the Northern Irish may well consider themselves Irish as well, I can't speak for them and it can be a contentious issue; for example, look at the umming and erring over who Rory McIlroy would play under when golf got into the Olympics).

Joe Calzaghe was born in London, but his mum was Welsh and he ended up growing up in Wales, hence his accent and considering himself Welsh, with some Italian ancestry.

Joshua is English with some Nigerian ancestry.

Fury is the odd one out. He is clearly English, but identifies first and foremost as a Gypsy and has, I believe, claimed he is nationless.

[OnlytheTruth]

Doesn't British mean from Great Brittany? It's full UK? Never heard the Irish lumped in with the rest of the Brits before.

What about Manx? British? Or just Manx?

Why don't I ever heard about Cornish folk like they're different from English folk?

interesting over there to say the least.

So, you have two sides of the fence here. You have those who will say that they are British and those who say they are English.

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland make up the rest of the United Kingdom but they will say that they are Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish, respectively. That would be the norm.

Then, within England, you have the different areas or cities that have nicknames associated with them. For example; London is cockney, Birmingham is Brummy, Newcastle is Geordie.

Manx is an old language from the Isle of Man (between mainland UK and the Ireland, in the Irish Sea). Not to be confused with Manc or Mancunian which is someone from Manchester. A nickname like cockney, Brummy or Geordie.

Cornish are from Cornwall. The most South-western county and they want independance. I believe they consider themselves more Celtic than anything. They call outsiders Emmet's to mark them as 'not from Cornwall'.

Hope that clears it up

[vitali1999]

Exactly ! Although I understand it that the clash of English titans should be held in the UK according to many.

It should but this ****** covid paneramic is preventing that from happening.