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  • rrayvez
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    #71
    Originally posted by icha
    P4P number 1 acording to chavez but he is not the real deal ??
    chavez considers canelo as the best active boxer, and you said you will take his word, so deal with it ...

    https://izquierdazo.com/los-5-mejore...-cesar-chavez/
    you’re trying to change your narrative because you tried to say Chavez said canelo will be the best ever from Mexico and you lied.



    Chavez also said he thinks Crawford is “much better” but canelo had the better opposition.



    There are also multiple interviews where Chavez has rightfully criticized canelo.
    So unlike the groupie Mexican American counterparts who idolize canelo like a god, people from Mexico call out the bull*** including him taking banned substances, help from judges and compromising his opponents with catch weights and rehydration clauses.

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    • icha
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      #72
      Originally posted by rrayvez
      Julio Cesar Chavez and Juan Manuel Marquez say different, I’ll take their word over yours as I’m pretty sure you were born and raised in America.
      Originally posted by rrayvez
      you’re trying to change your narrative because you tried to say Chavez said canelo will be the best ever from Mexico and you lied.



      Chavez also said he thinks Crawford is “much better” but canelo had the better opposition.



      There are also multiple interviews where Chavez has rightfully criticized canelo.
      So unlike the groupie Mexican American counterparts who idolize canelo like a god, people from Mexico call out the bull*** including him taking banned substances, help from judges and compromising his opponents with catch weights and rehydration clauses.
      you need to update your sources.. that was before the smith fight, now this is after the smith fight

      Tras la pelea, el César del boxeo no dudó en rendirse ante el Campeón del mundo. “Con todo respeto para Julio César Chávez, jajaja, creo que Canelo ya está entre los más grandes mexicanos. Hace ver las peleas fáciles. Llevaba un rival difícil y la verdad que lo hizo ver facilito”, expresó la Leyenda del Boxeo post combate a ESPN.


      is clear now that chavez considers canelo the real deal, you will have to be a hater to deny this, wait nevermind....

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        #73
        Originally posted by icha
        you need to update your sources.. that was before the smith fight, now this is after the smith fight

        Tras la pelea, el César del boxeo no dudó en rendirse ante el Campeón del mundo. “Con todo respeto para Julio César Chávez, jajaja, creo que Canelo ya está entre los más grandes mexicanos. Hace ver las peleas fáciles. Llevaba un rival difícil y la verdad que lo hizo ver facilito”, expresó la Leyenda del Boxeo post combate a ESPN.


        is clear now that chavez considers canelo the real deal, you will have to be a hater to deny this, wait nevermind....
        1. Still never said canelo would be the best Mexican ever as you said he did. So you lied.
        2. He’s maintained Crawford is much better than canelo but only gave canelo the edge in competition and that hasn’t changed.
        3. There are wayyyy more articles of Chavez criticizing canelo than praising him. So the main point is, you guys want to nut guzzle him and cry about criticism, yet he’s been criticized consistently by real Mexican greats. So when Chavez laughed and walked away during an interview when he was asked if canelo would be the best ever, when he said canelo is not among the top 5 in Mexicans in boxing history , when he said Crawford was much better than canelo, when he had canelo losing multiple fights that he called from ringside, He meant all of that and unlike you blind groupies, he doesn’t shine blind praise upon him.

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        • icha
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          #74
          Originally posted by budfr
          Real Mexicans know Canelo is the real deal.
          Originally posted by rrayvez
          Julio Cesar Chavez and Juan Manuel Marquez say different, I’ll take their word over yours as I’m pretty sure you were born and raised in America.
          does chavez not consider canelo to be the real deal ??

          a simple yes or no will do, no need for BS excuses...
          Last edited by icha; 01-18-2021, 03:49 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by icha
            does chavez not consider canelo to be the real deal ??

            a simple yes or no will do, no need for BS excuses...
            You’re taking everything literal. Point is , he called the bullshet for years and doesn’t suck him off blindly...like you guys do.

            Did he ever say he’d be the greatest Mexican ever like you said he did? Yes or no will do, no need for BS excuses.

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            • icha
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              #76
              Originally posted by rrayvez
              You’re taking everything literal. Point is , he called the bullshet for years and doesn’t suck him off blindly...like you guys do.

              Did he ever say he’d be the greatest Mexican ever like you said he did? Yes or no will do, no need for BS excuses.
              the point is chavez has changed his tune when it comes to canelo, and now considers him the rel deal....
              how hard it is to accept that ?
              i accept i might have used the wrong words, since i remember chavez being asked during the live broadcast from tvazteca, not the espn postfight, but i couldnt fight the tvazteca one so i will give you that...
              but the only point i was trying to make is chavez considers canelo to be the real deal(p4p number 1 and among the great mexicans in history)... and i know how he was feeling on the past, but tht has changed...

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                #77
                Originally posted by icha
                the point is chavez has changed his tune when it comes to canelo, and now considers him the rel deal....
                how hard it is to accept that ?
                i accept i might have used the wrong words, since i remember chavez being asked during the live broadcast from tvazteca, not the espn postfight, but i couldnt fight the tvazteca one so i will give you that...
                but the only point i was trying to make is chavez considers canelo to be the real deal(p4p number 1 and among the great mexicans in history)... and i know how he was feeling on the past, but tht has changed...
                here’s my point, I was debating with someone else who refused to acknowledge any criticism of canelo, in any way. So I told him Mexicans would be embarrassed by him. Someone else commented that real Mexicans consider canelo the real deal so I made my comment about Chavez and Marquez. Two Mexican greats who have understandably criticized certain things about canelo. Real Mexicans are actual boxing fans and call it as they see it, good or bad. The groupies on here only want the good and argue against the bad even if it’s facts. So while Chavez or any other Mexican in boxing can understandably give canelo his props, it doesn’t mean that they act like the bad doesn’t exists. Because it does when it comes to testing positive for clen, controversial scorecards, using A side tactics to gain an advantage such as the short notice or weight clauses, and it shouldn’t be ignored, even if you want to credit him. So Chavez keeps it real.

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                • icha
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by rrayvez
                  here’s my point, I was debating with someone else who refused to acknowledge any criticism of canelo, in any way. So I told him Mexicans would be embarrassed by him. Someone else commented that real Mexicans consider canelo the real deal so I made my comment about Chavez and Marquez. Two Mexican greats who have understandably criticized certain things about canelo. Real Mexicans are actual boxing fans and call it as they see it, good or bad. The groupies on here only want the good and argue against the bad even if it’s facts. So while Chavez or any other Mexican in boxing can understandably give canelo his props, it doesn’t mean that they act like the bad doesn’t exists. Because it does when it comes to testing positive for clen, controversial scorecards, using A side tactics to gain an advantage such as the short notice or weight clauses, and it shouldn’t be ignored, even if you want to credit him. So Chavez keeps it real.
                  yes canelo has made mistakes, the khan fight, clen, weight clausules etc... and chavez keeps it real, but is clear that he now consders canelo to be the real deal, he didnt in the past, i can agree with that...

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                  • rrayvez
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by icha
                    yes canelo has made mistakes, the khan fight, clen, weight clausules etc... and chavez keeps it real, but is clear that he now consders canelo to be the real deal, he didnt in the past, i can agree with that...
                    ok...........

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by kushking
                      Don't ever reply to me again you pathetic ass, you are a waste of breathe. The only reason I don't ridicule Benevidez in every post is because he is not a cowardis pos like Billy tīts Saunders whose the scum of the earth in every way. (I have always said hes a good "boxer" but pos human)

                      Its ironic how much you dumb clowns deflect me supposedly favoring fighters based on race,which is why I'm called a pro black racist 1 minute, then a pro mexican racist another minute just because I stated 2 mexicans would beat Plant,lil püss püss like you fly into a rage after literally stalking me online like lil queefs Because I keep it real about your hypejob favs being duckers & or peds cheats.

                      You lose all credibility trying to call me a hypocrite while you literally defend Shytes blatant roiding & fighting juiced without his opponent knowing.

                      It a waste of time exposing your kind,you keep wanting refills. Canelo is the #1 p4p FACT,B tîts Saunders is lil more than a glorified pub brawler til now in his career,who scares absolutely no one,Fact, BJS had to rob D list Akavov,Fact

                      Canelo offered Plant & BJS fights & they ducked over money,etc. FACT
                      I told you that you'd run again didn't i?

                      I've just brought you a new bell for your collar and a brand new leash that will look good on you.

                      Now who's for walkies?

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