Can somebody please help me with this Errol Spencer hype?

['b']

One thing I will say is HILARIOUS about *some* American fans and I'm sure a few of you others have noticed this many times as well:

when they have like 2 or 3 Americans on a p4p list who all fight in the same weight division yet none of them have faced each other? LOL! How the f_cc can you be p4p if you haven't beat the other guy? That's like having AJ and Fury on a p4p list when they haven't fought each other to determine their ranking in the first place!!!

[JakeTheBoxer]

Crawford is more GGG alike guy. When he steps up at 147 and fights top competition, he will likely lose by decision.

Spence also looked very impressive when he fought Ocampo, Bundu, Peterson..Guys actually don`t knock out their top competition. That is how the boxing works.

[YoungManRumble]

Can we all just take a minute to appreciate the thread starters name?

[Divine Hammer]

spence is a middleweight shrinking down to welterweight for the huge size advantage.

he'd be ordinary and mediocre against good prime guys his own size.

[Divine Hammer]

Boils down to a question.

Where were the guys ranked that Spence beat, when he beat them?

Kell Brook - Top 5 Welterweight, undefeated at the weight class, IBF Champion, Spence beat him ON HIS HOME TURF AND ON HIS TERMS

Shawn Porter - Top 5 Welterweight, WBC Champion

Danny Garcia - Top 5 Welterweight, 2 division champion, former lineal at 140

Mikey Garcia - Undefeated, Top 10 Welterweight (which I disagreed with), 4 division champion, former lineal at 140

That's not even counting:

Chris Algieri - never knocked out, Manny couldn't do it, Khan couldn't do it, Spence did - NSB at large said Algieri would outbox Spence

Lamont Peterson - 2 division champion, stepped up when nobody else would

All of those guys are/were in their primes when Spence beat them.

It's easy to dismiss wins after the fact, bro.


Fighters who have nothing but knockouts on the record should make you skeptical of the level of competition.

kell brook coming off a stoppage loss where his face got broken. drained himself down 2 weight classes.

porter looked terrible against ugas. got a gift decision. spence struggled badly.

danny garcia not prime. didn't do anything noteworthy at 147 except lose against the top guys. looked slow and barely threw. only in it for the paycheck.

[Apollo7]

Because of his nationality he was a bit overhyped at one point. Doesn't seem to be so hyped anymore.

[rudy]

The notion of the thread is plausible. He had a competitive fight with Brook, post-Golovkin. He beat a Lamont Peterson and Chris Algieri, who have collectively accomplished what at 147? He had a close one with Shawn Porter, who was coming off of, in my eyes, a clear defeat to Ugas. Danny Garcia was a good comeback opponent after his car accident. I can't fault him for that fight.

The welterweight division in general is a little over-hyped. I think the fact that Pacquiao is still around and competitive makes it a little bit more of a money division than it really should be.

The fool who started this subject clearly is 15 years old and never watched Boxing until last year ignore fools like

[rudy]

Can we all just take a minute to appreciate the thread starters name?

His name is perfect

[KillaMane26]

Any fanboy who says Mikey Garcia was a legit win is like a fanboy who says Kelly Brook was a legit win for GGG. You have ZERO credibility

"Decent" win considering quality of opponent but has to have asterisk and points taken for size difference.

[KillaMane26]

Crawford is more GGG alike guy. When he steps up at 147 and fights top competition, he will likely lose by decision.

Spence also looked very impressive when he fought Ocampo, Bundu, Peterson..Guys actually don`t knock out their top competition. That is how the boxing works.

Based on what? He has shown he has the heart and grit to win a tough fight.

I think it's more likely he wins very tough fights when he steps up