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Shantay Whiner aka deontayduckus wilderquackus is gonna stop the fight in mediation, right guys?????....please stop AJ vs Fury...I know al can do it...al haymon went to Harvard and he plays chess not checkers like Hearn.....did I mention al haymon went to Harvard, he isa biznessman....Shantay Whiner wanted to get pregnant and also discovered Mark Breland spiked the water, never invite Breland to a party , He might spike the punch bowl......these Wilderettes are very hysterical and get worse with every passing day, and I really enjoy reading their commentsLast edited by TexasCowBoy; 01-16-2021, 07:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Oldskoolg View PostBut didn’t Joshua maintain that a unification of this magnitude HAVE to take place in the U.K. “because of the fans?”
I reckon Saudi with the rematch in U.K. hopefully.
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Originally posted by Jkp View PostDidn't get as far as negotiations, because Eddie's offer was so ridiculous. Do some research why...
Try again gumbo
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Originally posted by Cool Scant View Postyou last paragraph is exactly the point. Fury isn't a big ppv seller is marketable with wilder but yet Hearn and AJ didn't play games with Fury. If AJ want to fight wilder he wouldn't have played games with him.
We know for a fact that a legitimate offer was given to Wilder and he declined it to fight Fury. We know 100% that Wilder didn’t want to fight Joshua.
We have a Twitter offer from Wilder that was ‘accept and then we’ll talk about the details’. That’s not a serious offer, is it?
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Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View PostNot sure how that is obvious. The situation at the time wasn’t the same as it was after Wilder v Fury 1.
At the time of the flat fee, Wilder wasn’t a PPV seller. His biggest payday at the time was half of the flat fee that Hearn offered. If you earn £50k and another company offers you £100k, to do the same job for them, you’d accept it. I would! Anyone would. The whole excuse about declining an offer ‘Because they didn’t disclose how much Joshua was earning’ was just another one to add to the bad excuses list.
After the 1st Fury fight, Hearn came back out and said that Wilder was now closer to a 50/50 split deal. Then DAZN came in with the $120m, 3 fight offer and he still turned it down to make far less money against Fury. Now he lost the WBC strap, he’s ****ed himself out of tens of millions.
It’s very telling in the Fury split offer that Hearn/AJ respect Fury a lot more than Wilder. They know to secure the fight, they can’t **** around with the money. They know the likelihood of Fury winning are much higher than Wilder.
DAZN offered Wilder an opportunity to leave PBC/Fox/Showtime and sign a 3 fight deal with them. This deal was done by John Skipper, Hearn was not involved because both Wilder and Finkle felt he gave them the run around in New York. Wilder made 36m in 2020...how you consider that "far less money" is anyone's guess.
Flat fees are disliked by boxers for numerous reasons. Lack of access to backends and being handcuffed to poor fights/networks are just two of them. Wilder staging his fights on Showtime was a massive boon as it got him eyes of the casual audience. This would not have happened on DAZN due to their already poor US market penetration.
As I keep saying, only idiots really fall for whatever **** Hearn has to say. It doesn't even pass scrutiny of a few Google searches. There is no "biggest offer he ever had". No one who actually thinks they're worth anything is going to be a heavyweight champion and then accept a pittance 12% flat fee alongside a rematch clause which is likely to be equally as one-sided...even if one wins.
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Originally posted by The plunger man View Postagain your wrong gumbo......wilder has gone on record with him saying he turned down a career highest payday in Joshua for an easier night with fury.
Try again gumbo
And AJ turned down Wilders offer...
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Originally posted by OnlytheTruth View PostNot sure how that is obvious. The situation at the time wasn’t the same as it was after Wilder v Fury 1.
At the time of the flat fee, Wilder wasn’t a PPV seller. His biggest payday at the time was half of the flat fee that Hearn offered. If you earn £50k and another company offers you £100k, to do the same job for them, you’d accept it. I would! Anyone would. The whole excuse about declining an offer ‘Because they didn’t disclose how much Joshua was earning’ was just another one to add to the bad excuses list.
After the 1st Fury fight, Hearn came back out and said that Wilder was now closer to a 50/50 split deal. Then DAZN came in with the $120m, 3 fight offer and he still turned it down to make far less money against Fury. Now he lost the WBC strap, he’s ****ed himself out of tens of millions.
It’s very telling in the Fury split offer that Hearn/AJ respect Fury a lot more than Wilder. They know to secure the fight, they can’t **** around with the money. They know the likelihood of Fury winning are much higher than Wilder.
The deal involved Wilder ditching his entire promotional team and giving long term control to Matchroom/Dazn for multiple fights.
The way things turned out Wilder/AJ fight could not have happened as AJ lost his titles to Ruiz, and was then committed to rematch.
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Originally posted by Jkp View PostHearns proposal never even guaranteed a fight with AJ.
The deal involved Wilder ditching his entire promotional team and giving long term control to Matchroom/Dazn for multiple fights.
The way things turned out Wilder/AJ fight could not have happened as AJ lost his titles to Ruiz, and was then committed to rematch.
Stop talking **** gumbo and the fake email offer never existed and in wilders own words he turned down a far better offer for Joshua than he received for fury ....stop lying gumbo
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