Doping in boxing

[Dariusz]

Open doping would lead to oneupmanship and boxers who look like anime characters, at which point the fight would become a freak show... When Floyd fought that Japanese kickboxer on Rizin I caught some of the undercard and there was some cabinet of curiosities type **** going on there including a woman built like Scott Steiner lol. I don’t think that would catch on.

I’m sure most boxers are pushing the limits with regards to supplements and work, anything to get an advantage... However, I’m equally sure that none of that can substitute for skill and experience. Plus a lot of them are using it to cut weight, which means they’ll be drained and weakened on fight night.

Take Jarrell Miller for example... he could juice himself to the gills and still stand 0 chance of beating or even competing with an AJ or Usyk.

You are a wise guy. But neither is your fault, not mine, people want gladiators.
If everything was tight -- the last true natural champ was Sonny Liston ?

[chaosisme]

The obvious solution is to just get rid of testing altogether and unban all substances. It's ok to use some PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS, but not others? Let's be real, none of these guys are training on strictly food and water. This goes for ALL professional sports. Afraid of "drug cheats"? Don't become a professional athlete.

[Dariusz]

The obvious solution is to just get rid of testing altogether and unban all substances. It's ok to use some PERFORMANCE ENHANCERS, but not others? Let's be real, none of these guys are training on strictly food and water. This goes for ALL professional sports. Afraid of "drug cheats"? Don't become a professional athlete.

LOL, so everyone should go to the "open" , right ? Why these tests then ? nWhy dfo we need this "natural" category if the majority of you ****ers prefer to see freaks ?

You all have no solutions. Even your questions are ridiculous.

[shza]

You are a wise guy. But neither is your fault, not mine, people want gladiators.
If everything was tight -- the last true natural champ was Sonny Liston ?

Who knows... I don't even pay attention to the rumors and accusations because we have no way of knowing the truth given the corruption in boxing. Plus, "supplementation" is constantly evolving to exploit holes in the testing regimes. Either way, a juiced up bum is going to lose to a talented natural fighter 9x out of 10.

This is the freakish Brazilian kickboxer I mentioned, btw (Gabi Garcia):

[chaosisme]

LOL, so everyone should go to the "open" , right ? Why these tests then ? nWhy dfo we need this "natural" category if the majority of you ****ers prefer to see freaks ?

You all have no solutions. Even your questions are ridiculous.

I don't want any divisions or drug testing. Testing clean proves nothing, which makes the whole idea of drug testing pointless. Get rid of it.

[Dariusz]

I don't want any divisions or drug testing. Testing clean proves nothing, which makes the whole idea of drug testing pointless. Get rid of it.

This is my general idea in the "open" division. The "clean" division is just a must for honest sportsmen as a reaction, that's all.

[dan_cov]

The thing is these boxers are in the top 0.01% out of 100s of thousands if not millions worldwide. These aren't your normal athletes or human beings.

The top level we are talking fine percentages do we really want guys juicing?

Just because two guys that are sort of equal in every regard are juicing even on the same course you can not expect the same or similar results. Some guys won't respond well others will be super responsive to even minimal gear.

Take for example Vitor Belfort - A non TRT Belfort vs a TRT Belfort is night & day. You give a responder like that low dose TRT you've got problems. This guys suddenly going from looking ordinary as **** to being some super explosive, lightening fast freak of nature that is putting world class fighters out in a heartbeat. This guy juicing caused a fighter to become blind in one eye. He's going from being whatever you want to label him as to looking like some super hero character from a comic book.

Boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is without openly letting them take steroids which have no end of benefits from cardio & recovery right through to increased bone density & ability to absorb a shot.

[Dariusz]

The thing is these boxers are in the top 0.01% out of 100s of thousands if not millions worldwide. These aren't your normal athletes or human beings.

The top level we are talking fine percentages do we really want guys juicing?

Just because two guys that are sort of equal in every regard are juicing even on the same course you can not expect the same or similar results. Some guys won't respond well others will be super responsive to even minimal gear.

Take for example Vitor Belfort - A non TRT Belfort vs a TRT Belfort is night & day. You give a responder like that low dose TRT you've got problems. This guys suddenly going from looking ordinary as **** to being some super explosive, lightening fast freak of nature that is putting world class fighters out in a heartbeat. This guy juicing caused a fighter to become blind in one eye. He's going from being whatever you want to label him as to looking like some super hero character from a comic book.

Boxing is a dangerous enough sport as it is without openly letting them take steroids which have no end of benefits from cardio & recovery right through to increased bone density & ability to absorb a shot.

I hear you, but if we want to live finally in a free world, if a guy wants a 5 minutes fame and then die, it is no business of mine and should not be of anyone else business.
Unfortunately, we are ****** not free men today.

[Dariusz]

Let's just make everyone juice. I'm a fan of Jon Jones but I wonder how many times he's been on some illegal stuff.

I would prefer this, even without the "clean" divison, instead e.g. seeing cheater Holyfield going to HW and being "one of the greatest" looking like zombie for sure.

[edgarg]

Nobody truly believes that story. Tyson and Hughie were juicing and got busted for nandrolone (anabolic steroid). Fury decided to come up with a fabricated story.

Another poster told me that they killed the boar with their bare hands, tore him to pieces.

Boars weigh from 250-500 lbs, and are from 6-over 8 ft long. They have no necks and are like bulls, 4 or more ft tall at the shoulder, very fast, elusive, and extremely dangerous when cornered.

On top of that, they are strictly nocturnal and no one can find them in the daytime.

And further research told me that there are only 600-1000 feral pigs, (not 2000) of both sexes at liberty roaming around in about 90,000 sq miles of territory of the U.K. And they have high testosterone only in rutting season. Certainly not nearly enough to cause test failures to two giants.. That must have ben a story they heard in a bar somewhere.