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  • #31
    "I will certainly attain a boxing world title before I call it a day."

    And Sulaiman starts preparing the 'crossover belt'...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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      Of course he has nothing to prove. In a stellar career that has seen him fight Brandon Rios, Mathysse, Broner, Vargas, Horn, Algieri etc, who else us there to fight other than maybe Khan or Mikey Garcia?
      Speaking of cherry picking, I noticed you included none of the people Pac fought from 2000-2009. The time period which he was recognized as fighter of the decade.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by BrometheusBob. View Post
        Speaking of cherry picking, I noticed you included none of the people Pac fought from 2000-2009. The time period which he was recognized as fighter of the decade.
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        I left that era out because PAC was actually fighting legit guys.
        I can be objective when dissecting PAC’s career. Here’s the thing though and this is the takeaway .... from 2000 to 2009 with the exception of a weight drained Oscar and a fringe win over David Diaz for a vacant belt just to give PAC another dubious title, PAC had great fights against legit opponents but he wasn’t a Roy Jones or Mayweather elite level.

        PAC got beat by Morales. Morales then went on to lose to Zaheer Rahim. The logic here was that Manny would step up to fight Rahim BUT he ducked Rahim and went on to fight Morales who had literally just lost to Rahim. That’s what you call a duck.

        PAC fought Barrera 2nd time because the first fight was a war. Sure he won the 2nd time just like he beat Morales a 2nd and 3rd time but the fact that he had those rematches was because he either lost or went to hell and back in winning.

        And the best example is Marquez. Marquez had PAC’s number abd except for their final fight, all the three fights ended in controversial decisions.

        My point is, that era of PAC’s career was good but he had losses. He was average. In fact, he was just no different from Marquez, Morales or Barrera. I view them all as equal.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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          New generation? You talk in g about guys like Brandon Rios, Broner, Mathysse, Jesse Vargas etc?
          Those guys?
          Ehhh undefeated Thurman? Ring a bell?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Scary View Post
            Ehhh undefeated Thurman? Ring a bell?
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            Out of over a dozen fights since 2009, Thurman is/was a legit fighter he fought. That’s why I didn’t include him.
            I’m not discrediting PAC for that but I also can’t rave about one fight when he cherry-picked 10 others.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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              Out of over a dozen fights since 2009, Thurman is/was a legit fighter he fought. That’s why I didn’t include him.
              I’m not discrediting PAC for that but I also can’t rave about one fight when he cherry-picked 10 others.
              Thurman was young and fresh. Your hate for Pac shines through. This was an insane win. A+.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Scary View Post
                Thurman was young and fresh. Your hate for Pac shines through. This was an insane win. A+.
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                Maybe English is your 2nd language do let me paraphrase what I wrote to you earlier.

                I did say Thurman was a legit opponent. He is true WW and was undefeated and PAC beat him. I agreed with you. Do you not understand that?

                My question to you was, other than Thurman, can you name a solid WW that PAC fought from 2009 to 2018 that he beat without catchweights or guys that weren’t coming off losses?

                Can. You. Name. Them? We are talking about a dozen or more fighters. You must have a couple at least?

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