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  • BoxingIsGreat
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    #61
    Originally posted by Ray*
    Nope he wasn’t all talk. They positioned Haney at the number 1, Lomachenko was supposed to fight him. And he preferred to drop the belt. That’s not all talk, those were facts (Coming from a Lomachenko fan by the way).
    Green K for the truth.

    Loma is available for Haney. Haney doesn't wanna that fight. It's a sure loss. Loma has more power than him in addition to skill. I don't give Haney a chance. He'll be whipped.

    If Hearn is not the liar that I think he is, he should approach Arum on Loma for Haney in May.

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    • nghtmr111
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      #62
      Linares (unintentionally) allowed Lomachenko to get over confident, thus leaving himself opened to getting timed.

      Loma never had a chance to believe in himself versus Lopez. Loma can downplay Lopez's power all he wants... but I think he felt the shots that were blocked, and the ones that landed on his arm... I feel that made Loma apprehensive. Lomachenko doubted himself and showed no heart in the fight. Too little too late.

      I was rooting for Loma. I was out loud telling my dad: "watch, Lomachenko is gonna start pivoting and showing the footwork and angles that have helped Loma confuse all of his opponents in the past. Lopez is not going to know what to do then."

      I was wrong.

      Lopez showed composure and had enough skill to keep Lomachenko at bay. Confused and unsure, what should he try or do next? Lomachenko did enough to survive.

      He came out with all of these bullshyt excuses to justify his loss. It was far from a draw. His torn bicep (or whatever it was) has nothing to do with his lack of footwork/angles/pivots that we are use to seeing. He was injured in the Linares fight right? but he didn't give up then. Why did he give up this time?

      He walked out of the ring like a sore loser after the fact. Lopez and his father didn't even talk shyt after the fight. Lopez nor his father said TOO MUCH. They made clear that they were underestimated without adding much more.

      Lopez has the power to drop and/or KO Lomachenko. Lomachenko simply did enough to NOT allow that to happen. Lomachenko did not have the skill or power (that night to say the least) to stop Lopez.

      I generously give Loma 5 rounds.

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      • Ray*
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        #63
        Originally posted by BLASTER1
        Loma ducked Haney to fight Teo.
        Lol ok mate.
        Whatever you think is right.
        Quote me where I said that. Some of you guys have a terrible reading comprehension 😂

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        • Ray*
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          #64
          Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
          Green K for the truth.

          Loma is available for Haney. Haney doesn't wanna that fight. It's a sure loss. Loma has more power than him in addition to skill. I don't give Haney a chance. He'll be whipped.

          If Hearn is not the liar that I think he is, he should approach Arum on Loma for Haney in May.
          I think this fight would be great for both of them. Haney has Fortuna as his mandatory, Garcia isn’t keen on Haney right now, he wants Tank.

          If Fortuna isn’t enforcing his mandatory then I would like to see Haney going back in for the Lomachenko fight once more, let’s see if Arum and Lomachenko are interested now.

          It would be the best option for both.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Ray*
            I think this fight would be great for both of them. Haney has Fortuna as his mandatory, Garcia isn’t keen on Haney right now, he wants Tank.

            If Fortuna isn’t enforcing his mandatory then I would like to see Haney going back in for the Lomachenko fight once more, let’s see if Arum and Lomachenko are interested now.

            It would be the best option for both.
            I'm really trying not to see mismandatories like Kambosos. We'll see what Hearn gets for Haney.

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              #66
              Originally posted by Ray*
              Am going by facts, not one would have done or not done. They positioned Haney into that slot, Lomachenko decided to drop the belt, as Bob Arum didn’t want to have the Haney fight. They happily fought Campbell for the belt, and I have no issues with Loma fighting Lopez.

              But to say “Haney wouldn’t have fought Loma” is a false narrative, which I refused to subscribe to.
              It is a fact that Haney would not have fought Lomachenko immediately after winning the interim title because the WBC made it clear that they weren't going to get in the way of the undisputed title fight, which was scheduled for April 2020 at MSG. That means the absolute earliest Haney could've fought Lomachenko was in the fall of 2020. Do you really think Hearn would've had Haney sit out for 12+ months instead of having him defend the interim title once or twice like I said he would've?

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              • Ray*
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                #67
                Originally posted by Tbone27
                It is a fact that Haney would not have fought Lomachenko immediately after winning the interim title because the WBC made it clear that they weren't going to get in the way of the undisputed title fight, which was scheduled for April 2020 at MSG. That means the absolute earliest Haney could've fought Lomachenko was in the fall of 2020. Do you really think Hearn would've had Haney sit out for 12+ months instead of having him defend the interim title once or twice like I said he would've?
                That’s not a fact, that’s your opinion. Again the timeline.. would show you the facts. Lomachenko dropped the belt after winning it against Campbell. Haney picked up the dropped belt, Haney positioned himself through the WBC route to fight Lomachenko.

                Arum petitioned the WBC for the franchise belt, so that Haney couldn’t enforce his shot on Lomachenko. Team Loma wises were granted, and Haney became the email champ or whatever. So this has nothing to do with interim belt. Haney straight up wanted to fight Loma, Loma went with Teo. As a Loma fan you cannot fight everyone, nor am I accusing him of ducking Haney.

                This is the politics of boxing, it is what it is...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Ray*
                  Nope he wasn’t all talk. They positioned Haney at the number 1, Lomachenko was supposed to fight him. And he preferred to drop the belt. That’s not all talk, those were facts (Coming from a Lomachenko fan by the way).
                  A champion is only supposed to fight his No1 contender when the sanctioning body order a mandatory defence, and that never happened with Loma and Haney.

                  Imo, Loma being elevated to Franchise champ had nothing to do with avoiding Haney and everything to do with the WBC needing to demonstrate that Franchise titles were not created specially for the benefit of red haired Mexican cash cows only.

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                  • kafkod
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    That’s not a fact, that’s your opinion. Again the timeline.. would show you the facts. Lomachenko dropped the belt after winning it against Campbell. Haney picked up the dropped belt, Haney positioned himself through the WBC route to fight Lomachenko.

                    Arum petitioned the WBC for the franchise belt, so that Haney couldn’t enforce his shot on Lomachenko. Team Loma wises were granted, and Haney became the email champ or whatever. So this has nothing to do with interim belt. Haney straight up wanted to fight Loma, Loma went with Teo. As a Loma fan you cannot fight everyone, nor am I accusing him of ducking Haney.

                    This is the politics of boxing, it is what it is...
                    I'm with you on that, but there was no need for Arum to petition the WBC asking for Loma to be elevated to Franchise champ in order for him to fight Teo instead of Haney. He could simply have asked permission to unify with Teo before the mando was ordered.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by kafkod
                      I'm with you on that, but there was no need for Arum to petition the WBC asking for Loma to be elevated to Franchise champ in order for him to fight Teo instead of Haney. He could simply have asked permission to unify with Teo before the mando was ordered.
                      The reason that Arum petitioned for Franchise Champion status was to completely remove Haney from the picture.

                      He would be Teofimo's mando right now.

                      Arum made that problem go away.

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