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  • #11
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
    So a 3 weight world champion, former undisputed champion, who’s 14-0 in world title fights, 8-0 against former/current/future champions is apparently a “hypejob”.
    I really wish people would stop referring to how many weight classes current fighters have won titles in since today they are 17 weight classes and 6 titles per weight class(WBA and in some classes the WBC franchise, so therefore 6). If any too 10 fighter can’t win ONE so called major title today in at least one weight class, they are trash.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by kushking View Post
      Upset of the year prediction: "I predict Crawford to lose if he finally steps up vs either Porter,Ortiz & of course Spence. For that matter I don't think he even beats Garcia let alone the elites at 140."

      I see Crawford as the latest hypejob whos good but has not demonstrated hes an ATG,he is like Ggg & Loma being overhyped way too much for beating overmatched opponents ages ago,this is why p4p is often a joke,these 3 fighters have been ranked #1 p4p when they started koing a string of B-,C & D class fighters.(of course Loma was the one who actually tried fighting the best available in many of his fights, Crawford & Ggg cherrypick fighters that are huge underdogs like 10/1 usually & paper champs.)


      Look at what a joke it is for there now suddenly to become a debate about whether the fighter who was the actual FOTD 2010s,(Canelos)is the #1 p4p(of course he is & has been for years when these hypejobs were overhyped not just because they are skillful champs,but because there IS anti Canelo haters in msm whom HATE Canelo(like Paulie whom admited it) the truth is despite Canelo having cherrypicked a few opponents like anyone,he has earned his status as cashcow by beating the best available his entire career.

      The rest cannot say the same thing except Loma whom lost to Salido but was still called p4p #1 since he had like 6 total fights & was going on 30. And what a surprise he got sc****d by Teo. Yet espn whom say "the ginger isnt p4p Because,too many close fights he won against the best,not enough bums kod like Crawford"(yet The guy they rank #1,Bud/Loma/ had several close fights against overmatched opponents,& Loma has a Loss in just a few fights,Bud went 12 with a 1 legged driveby victim" yet now after a decade of Canelo fighting everyone,hes suddenly being discussed as being p4p#1 despite ggg being for the longest time p4p despite not winning a single belt in the ring vs a full champ.




      What constitutes a hypejob? For millennia that question has been asked but it's only after they are exposed that a hypejob truly gets credited as being a hypejob.

      Hypejob definition: a "hype job" is simply a production, promotion, or other undertaking where something is hyped up far above the actuality or facts demonstrate.

      Lets look back at fighters who were upset & humbled despite being billed as being p4p#1 & or unbeatable knockout artists whom nobody can last 12 let alone beat.

      Lomachenko-

      was hailed as an ATG &p4p#1 by espn & many others since early on in his career that started very late at age 26. He is & always was a solid elite fighter who benefitted from good matchmaking but hadn't beaten an opponent who was truly his equal on paper going in to the fight.(He had solid wins against Linares,Pedraza,GRJ,& Walters,but he also had a loss vs a journeyman C level.)

      He started believing his hype so much that he ended up coining his own nickname "Nomaschenko" Because as he would tell it,nobody could last without quitting,he even said Teo & others were unworthy because they would quit.


      Wilder- was donning executioner masks & outfits & coined the term "the bronze bomber" Because he believed his own hype & thought he would ko every opponent with ease & that nobody can hurt him. He started having ringwalks with *** corny rappers & tried turning boxing into a race war by what he & his paid rappers said regularly. He would laugh that another fighter said hed ko him, Because he genuinely believed in his made up persona that he would slaughter everyone in his path & their only shot was on pts.

      Ggg-
      Despite having only gifted vacant belts after a decade as a pro,was ranked p4p#1 by every outlet & rating org for a very long time. He started believing he was a unbeatable"mexican style warrior" who nobody would last 7 rds against (he knew this because Abel told him so) just as he "knew" "anyone between 154-168".
      Well ggg was BEATEN by Canelo who til then was a still learning jmw with shorter reach & height(which is why GGG wanted him to be his career defining fight) because as I've always said,he picks on smaller guys whenever possible & avoids taller, naturally bigger punchers with good defense whenever possible. (&This formula remains his bread & butter today)
      Ggg to this day remains overhyped & p4p for no reason.


      That says it all. SInce Canelo beat Ggg he has changed his name,changed his style,& changed his trainer,persona & handlers,& went from claiming only mexican style is real boxing,to now refusing to mention the word Mexican.
      (Does that sound like a guy who thinks he won?) He went from Mr Ko to Mr ran outta ring crying

      And don't give me that bs about"Clenelo",while bigging up mr lifelong 2 weeks/short notice testing ggg that goes on sabbaticals.
      A real hypejob is someone who is highly touted but never amounts to much. Felix Verjardo is a hypejob. The guys you described aren't really hype jobs. They are just guys you don't like but whom objectively accomplished a lot and beat quality opponents.
      Last edited by TrollyMcTroll; 01-08-2021, 04:46 PM.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post
        I'll never change your mind but if you have an open mind you really need to listen to Dontaes Boxing's video exposing Canelo's resume.
        Huhhh!!!! FAKENEWS!

        Anyone that calls Canelos's resume a joke is straight


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        • #14
          Originally posted by TrollyMcTroll View Post
          A real hypejob is someone who is highly touted but never amounts to much. Felix Verjardo is a hypejob. The guys you described aren't really hype jobs. They are just guys you don't like but whom objectively accomplished a lot and beat quality opponents.
          I don't dislike those 4 fighters(except Ggg who I'm still a fan ofs skill level)

          I am referring to the meaning of hypejob as in fighters who didn't earn the amount of hype they received.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by kushking View Post
            Dontae trying to discredit Canelos resume automatically makes him a joke, Because if his resume is discredited then boxing is already dead Because hes faced everyone.
            Watch the video and you'll see why you're wrong. One thing I will point out is losing to a great fighter doesn't help your resume. You or I could fight Mayweahter, lose, and then have a great resume. Based on Canelo fan logic, Conor Mcgregor has the best resume in boxing besides Canelo.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by buddyr View Post
              I really wish people would stop referring to how many weight classes current fighters have won titles in since today they are 17 weight classes and 6 titles per weight class(WBA and in some classes the WBC franchise, so therefore 6). If any too 10 fighter can’t win ONE so called major title today in at least one weight class, they are trash.
              Crawford was ring magazine and lineal champion at 135. Undisputed and lineal champion at 140 and has also captured a belt at 147, making 4 defences.

              I get your point but in Crawford’s case calling him a 3 division champ is completely valid.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by kushking View Post
                No the guy who hasn't faced a worthy opponent in 5 yrs buts ranked #1 p4p IS. The guy whom thinks hes an ATG so doesn't need to fight anyone but Top Rank victims.hes going on 34 yrs old & is in no rush to fight an elite Ww(as opposed to elite 5 yrs ago) Crawford has buckets of talent but he hasn't been learning by facing the best like Porter has.
                Whichever way you wanna spin it, Crawford ain’t no hype job.

                What’s Porters best win? Danny Garcia?

                Do you really think DSG beats Crawford?

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                • #18
                  If Crawford lost to Spence (I don't think he will) That wouldn't make him a hypejob, that would just mean the 1 & 2 fought and one of them lost.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post
                    Crawford was ring magazine and lineal champion at 135. Undisputed and lineal champion at 140 and has also captured a belt at 147, making 4 defences.

                    I get your point but in Crawford’s case calling him a 3 division champ is completely valid.
                    135, though he was lineal champ, best win was Gamboa. But I will give him credit for that. 140 I give him all the credit in the world cuz he unified, but 147? No.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by buddyr View Post
                      135, though he was lineal champ, best win was Gamboa. But I will give him credit for that. 140 I give him all the credit in the world cuz he unified, but 147? No.
                      Prime Gamboa is a good win though. It's not like the kids today cherrypicking him.

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