Ouma: It's an honor to fight Taylor!

[The Fix]

ouma-taylor would be a fight id pay to see....

[Mech.]

i agree with EvilSaint. his record was pretty padded before fighting Hopkins and he was given two gift decisions in both fights, as well as his win over Wright.

plus most of his opponents he was fighting leading up to Hopkins were guys that naturally fought at 154lbs.


i thought he lost the 1st fight with Hopkins, all he was doing was shoe shinning and missing most of what he was throwing to win rounds.

and i thought that the 2nd fight with Hopkins should've been a drawn at least, just be cause he didn't get hit with huge shots like the first fight.

then with Wright a draw was only fair, neither one established any dominance in the fight. i scored it a draw.

I disagree with anybody that says that Taylor is simply a HBO cash cow,I dont think the logic adds up.First,I would hardly call taylor a cash cow before the Hops fights,he was a prospect,nothing more,at that point cotto was considered the better prospect even.Secondly,and the part that dosent make sense,do you really put your cash cow with hopkins 2x? in consecutive fights, and then with Winky wright immediately after?Not exactly the definition of "milking it"

And while I agree that thw Winky fight was righfuly a draw,like you said neither guy established dominance,I thought Winky did much better against Taylor than Hopkins did,so I dont get how you can say that was rightfuly a draw but the Hopkins bouts were robberies.

and in regards to your Taylor only fought natural 154 guys comment,it implies taylor picked on smaller guys but does that argument really hold up seeing as how Hopkins could have moved up a long time ago himself,and the fact two of his bigest fights were against two great welters?

[vB Martin]

Says J Russell Peltz, who co-promotes Ouma with Oscar de la Hoya's Golden Boy Priductions: "I have no problem with Jermain Taylor fighting Bozo The Clown. My problem would be with HBO televising it. HBO and Showtime fights should be for the crème de la crème, not for tune-ups. In years gone by, when fighters would ask for tune-ups, we would tell them to go to the auto body shop."

Then you're a ****ing idiot. You get tune ups at a mechanic shop.

That said, what ****ing fantasy world is this idiot living in where you only get the "crème de la crème" on HBO and Showtime? Even the HBO PPV cards are pathetic more often than not.

I wish we lived in the world he describes, but we don't.

I would love to see an Ouma v Taylor match. Ouma would force Taylor to fight and we would see if he was for real.

[deuce_drop]

I disagree with anybody that says that Taylor is simply a HBO cash cow,I dont think the logic adds up.First,I would hardly call taylor a cash cow before the Hops fights,he was a prospect,nothing more,at that point cotto was considered the better prospect even.Secondly,and the part that dosent make sense,do you really put your cash cow with hopkins 2x? in consecutive fights, and then with Winky wright immediately after?Not exactly the definition of "milking it"

And while I agree that thw Winky fight was righfuly a draw,like you said neither guy established dominance,I thought Winky did much better against Taylor than Hopkins did,so I dont get how you can say that was rightfuly a draw but the Hopkins bouts were robberies.

and in regards to your Taylor only fought natural 154 guys comment,it implies taylor picked on smaller guys but does that argument really hold up seeing as how Hopkins could have moved up a long time ago himself,and the fact two of his bigest fights were against two great welters?

as for taylor being the cash cow, he is, they're trying to build him up to be one of the biggest house hold names in boxing, at the moment. and for him being in there with Hopkins risking being the cash cow for HBO, thats where the gift decisions come into play. it was the first part in setting Taylor to be a superstar. make it to the final bell and the fight is yours kid, type thing. and to say that kind of **** doesn't happen in boxing is denial, because it happens all over, and without people who are involved or participating never even knowing, thats how they pull stuff off with less chance of scandal. i know it is far fetched but people will go to any lengths to win, and we all know that.


for his bouts with hopkins i said i thought that he was 0-1-1, one loss and one draw. i had hopkins winning the first fight, i don't see how you can take a belt away from a 12-13 year champ without hitting him with any clean shots. missing shots and shoe shinning isnt exactly taking the championship away from the champ. there fore i call that win a gift as do many. and the i know there is the flip side where people think the opposite.

the wright fight, we both agreed, YEAH!

[deuce_drop]

as for taylor and the 154lb fighters he fought, thats a fact.

Hopkins staying at the same weight his whole career, well about 98% of his career, i think is harder to do than move up in weight. if taylor stays at 160lb for the bulk of his career at least half as long as Hopkins did, i'll give him mad credit too, it's easier to move up especially if you're a bigger guy like Taylor and Hopkins, but to maintain that weight, basically fighting father time, that is some hard ****, becaue everyone as well as fighters gains weight when they get older, about 99% of the population on this planet.

Hopkins biggest wins against welterweights,eh, yes and no, they were the biggest names, they had more publicity than any other fighter he's faced. but you have to remember that DLH and Trinidad were dropping down 20-35+lbs. DLH dropping down to fight at 130 and 135, and Tito dropping down to fight at 140 and 147. DLH usually walked around 160 sometimes 170, and Tito would blow up to 180 sometimes more.

for Hopkins to stay on top of his weight they way he did throughout his career is an awesome display of discipline, and probably wont be duplicated in any time soon.

Taylor is going to move up, there is no stoping that. but in boxing thats what fighters do they fight at a lower weight to beat up smaller guys. i think that, that argument goes no where on either side, calling it out and defending it.

either way i still think that Taylor was given gifts and will continue to get them until something better comes along for HBO, but thats me i believe in conspiracies, or that they exist anyway.

[psychopath]

I must praise Ouma for having the guts for wanting to fight Taylor but I would rather see Ouma taking on Margarito first.

I hope Team Ouma exerts all effort and seek all avenues for a Margarito/Ouma fight.

[restless_438]

More than anything, I'm just excited because i have a feeling more people will know who Kassim Ouma is after his fight with Taylor

[Xcel]

Ouma will put up a good effort, but I dont see how he can beat Taylor.

[cupcrazy01]

Ouma will put up a good effort, but I dont see how he can beat Taylor.

I agree. Ouma is a good fighter, but he's not great and has no power. All Taylor will have to deal with is Ouma's fly-swarming attack, find somewhere to counter, and then crush Ouma with a Lampley-loving big right hand (except in this fight, they will actually land).

Ouma will put up a fight, no doubt, but he cannot and will not hurt Taylor (he couldn't do anything other than annoy the hell out of Powell, and he may be able to annoy Taylor, but when he gets a big right hand in return, he'll be in big trouble).

Taylor TKO6 Ouma.

[bdevils]

i agree with EvilSaint. his record was pretty padded before fighting Hopkins and he was given two gift decisions in both fights, as well as his win over Wright.

Taylor gets a lot of credit for scraping by in a fight and getting gifts wins, plus most of his opponents he was fighting leading up to Hopkins were guys that naturally fought at 154lbs.

out of his last three fights most people would say he's 0-1-2.

i thought he lost the 1st fight with Hopkins, all he was doing was shoe shinning and missing most of what he was throwing to win rounds.

and i thought that the 2nd fight with Hopkins should've been a drawn at least, just be cause he didn't get hit with huge shots like the first fight.

then with Wright a draw was only fair, neither one established any dominance in the fight. i scored it a draw.

just like evil saint said an HBO product, they're building their cash cow, which they've been doing for years, why you think Dibella is in control of Taylors career..........?

as for Ouma and Taylor i like the fight but i see Taylor landing too many big shots for Ouma to get the win. Ouma takes a lot of big shots while he busy throwing punches. Taylor hits alot harder than Ouma's previous opposition. Ouma doesnt hit hard enough to really hurt Taylor. it's a tough spot for Ouma but he has a chance of out working Taylor and making him look somewhat bad, if thats possible on HBO.

how can you call them gift decisions? they were close fights where the busier fighter got the nod. hopkins gave away too many early rounds, and in the winky fight it's all on how your score a fight, me personally i score the hard clean shots over jabs and taylor clearly landed the harder shots but i didn't disagree with the draw and for someone (winky) who thinks he won the fight why wouldn't he want to get right back in there for a rematch?