Comments Thread For: BoxingScene.com's 2020 Upset of The Year: Rosario Stops Williams

[nino brown21]

Very much enjoyed this fight . the way Rosario was coming forward and putting that 1 2 left hook to the body is a favorite combo n to see him utilize it magnificently .

[The Big Dunn]

7-1 for knockout at some bookies. For me it was 5 to 1. I know because that’s where I lost my money. Didn’t think a decision was in the cards

I didn't think Teo would win either. I figured if he did it would be by KO. I didn't envision a UD win.

[#1PaperChamp]

How is Teofimo vs Lomachenko not the Upset of The Year?

Because this website fellates Breadman

[PittyPat]

Man, I was thinking JRock was the real deal at 154, but how the fuck does someone lose to a guy nicknamed 'Banana', who himself gets KO'ed into a quivering mess by Charlo? I hate it badly when a fighter scores an upset but looks like a clown in his next fight.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Where though? I always see these blown up hindsight odds. But looking at this archive and based on google searches of promotional ******** odds articles, I was seeing +1000 around the top end.

I distinctly remember looking at Betonline leading up to the fight and seeing 20-to-1 (and called it out in my Underdogs post). I didn't check for wider, but if Poppa says so, it's so.

[YoungManRumble]

I distinctly remember looking at Betonline leading up to the fight and seeing 20-to-1 (and called it out in my Underdogs post). I didn't check for wider, but if Poppa says so, it's so.

I'm not buying it. Shows the Betonline history on that site (Pick any book from the drop down menu):

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/boxing/4024134/line-history/

Odds there for PICKEM league :

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=838029

Can't find anything higher than 15/1 when I search Rosario Williams odds. It was the same thing with Ruiz AJ 1. He was a 10/1 dog then when he won a bunch of articles come out saying 30/1 to exaggerate it.

Being a mod or site owner or whatever doesn't make you infallible.

[Combat Talk Radio]

I'm not buying it. Shows the Betonline history on that site (Pick any book from the drop down menu):

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/boxing/4024134/line-history/

Odds there for PICKEM league :

https://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=838029

Can't find anything higher than 15/1 when I search Rosario Williams odds. It was the same thing with Ruiz AJ 1. He was a 10/1 dog then when he won a bunch of articles come out saying 30/1 to exaggerate it.

Being a mod or site owner or whatever doesn't make you infallible.

The flaw in your logic is that the history only shows final odds at the time the fight was over, not the odds going into the fight.

Odds shift all night long, bro.

[YoungManRumble]

The flaw in your logic is that the history only shows final odds at the time the fight was over, not the odds going into the fight.

Odds shift all night long, bro.

No it shows line movement and history on a graph if info is available

[The D3vil]

How is Teofimo vs Lomachenko not the Upset of The Year?

Teóf deserved the upset of he year, when you are the under dog against who many ranked as the number 1 p4p fighter at the time, you can’t upset a better fighter

So the boxing media either knew they were bullshhtting with their over the top Loma hype which is why they're suddenly acting like his loss to Lopez is no big deal or they're embarrassed about being so desperately wrong that they're now trying to undermine Lopez' win.

I get that some picked Lopez to win or had money on it but the media made their mind up as soon as the fight was signed, it was a forgone conclusion that Loma would win long before the first bell.

'We still don't know how good Lopez is, he's too green, too inexperienced, he'll learn from this etc etc..' was the narrative before the fight. At the same time, 'Loma's P4P #1, he might be unbeatable, perhaps the greatest talent in the history of the sport blah blah blah...'

They can't now downplay it as if it's no big deal.

Loma achieved a lot in a short time as a pro, he was definitely up there in the P4P discussion but the media (and parts of his fanbase) overhyped him to ridiculously unrealistic levels and when someone beats him, they act like it's no big deal.

It doesn't bother me if you think another fight was a bigger upset, I'm just disappointed that a lot of the same boxing media that overhyped Loma and didn't give Lopez a shot are hardly mentioning this fight in their end of year wrap up articles and when they do, they downplay it as if it was a minor footnote of 2020.

Teo was the bigger, stronger, more athletic guy and much younger in his weight class

How is that a bigger upset than a 30-1 upset?

Man, I was thinking JRock was the real deal at 154, but how the fuck does someone lose to a guy nicknamed 'Banana', who himself gets KO'ed into a quivering mess by Charlo? I hate it badly when a fighter scores an upset but looks like a clown in his next fight.

J-Rock's a good fighter, he just isn't durable. He's like Jorge Linares in that sense.

Banana was weight drained, that's why you saw what you saw in that Charlo fight.

[_Rexy_]

How is Teofimo vs Lomachenko not the Upset of The Year?

Probably because nobody even knew who the **** Banana was going into the fight. A lot of people considered it an easy at home defense for Jrock