Comments Thread For: Devin Haney-Ryan Garcia Lightweight Title Fight To Be Ordered By WBC

[Sid-Knee]

We just don't get fights like this in boxing. Two young guns. When's the last time we really had one? I'm sure I'm wrong, but the last real one I remember was Bradley-Alexander and even that happened after Alexander looked like sh**t vs. Kotelnik.

AJ vs Whyte. Joyce vs Dubious. Taylor vs Prograis. Groves vs Degale.

But point taken. They should happen more often.

[Sid-Knee]

There is no consensus at all regarding these guys. Regarding this fight; I think Haney will struggle with Ryan's speed and power. Haney's defense is far from polished at this level and he is perhaps too afraid of being hit to get in a sneaky shot like Campbell was able to do. Maybe Haney was the better amateur but not pro.

You think Haney achieved as much or more than Luke in the Amateurs? Are you serious right now?

[F l i c k e r]

This is the fight to make.

For the Haney fans, don’t get upset when your boy loses.

I’ve been saying for a while that he isn’t all that good and I believe Garcia would beat him right now.

And no, Garcia is not my boy, I am no fan of his but objectively, I see him beating Haney at present. Maybe in a few years it is different but right now, Haney isn’t good enough.

[Pigeons]

AJ vs Whyte. Joyce vs Dubious. Taylor vs Prograis. Groves vs Degale.

But point taken. They should happen more often.

Buddy, Joshua-Whyte was irrelevant outside the UK. No one even rated Whyte at that point. The fight didn't even air in the US.

Joyce is 35 years old.

Taylor-Prograis. I agree, but it resulted from a tournament format.

Groves-Degale. Lol please stop, another irrelevant UK fight that didn't even air in the US.

[PredatorStyle]

You think Haney achieved as much or more than Luke in the Amateurs? Are you serious right now?

I was saying Haney was a better amateur than Ryan, not Campbell.

[slicksouthpaw16]

He'd have a better shot vs Tank, Haney wouldn't give him much opportunity (defense). He'd just out box him for 12 rounds.

[Sid-Knee]

I was saying Haney was a better amateur than Ryan, not Campbell.

Oh it's alright then.

And yeah, i agree. Garcia has much more potential in the pros. But he must fix his defence if he wants to climb higher. Which i'm sure he'll do.

[megas30]

The same way people rated Pac over Marquez even after Pac was knocked out by him?

Actually, this is not a sound argument since Pac has 2 wins over Marquez, while Marquez has just 1 over Pac.

Loma has no win over Lopez, while Lopez has a win over Loma. Based on your reasoning, all the listed 135 pounders can beat Loma, but his spot doesn't change.

Are you one of those people who are of the notion that is fight was a draw or somehow Loma managed to edge out Lopez?

[megas30]

Loma wasn't functioning at 100%. I don't know if it was an injury or what. Something was weird. I need to see more before I write him off. Maybe it was a bad night. Loma is overall more accomplished as well. Wasn't much impressed with Lopez.

Ranking someone you beat above you is not really a rarity.

Not saying you should write him off, but it is not up to you to keep his spot. That is something entirely up to him to prove he did indeed had a bad night.

From an objective point of view, you give the winner the benefit of the doubt until Loma proves otherwise.

[megas30]

They'll make up a belt for him because he's not going to fight Haney

Yes, unfortunately. Haney is low reward/high risk. In my opinion, Oscar is using Garcia to fight a proxy war against Mayweather and Canelo.

One, he wants the Cinco de Maya date from Canelo and using another popular Mexican/American to get it, and 2. He wants to crush Floyd's potential cash cow and keeps the glory. He can use one stone and kill two birds.