Pickem quarterly4 cash,Whos down?(wit yo broke ass)

[Citizen Koba]

Yea I'm more with this schedule myself. I don't see the need to rush it.

Cinco De Mayo kicks it off. Mexican Independence Day is the finish line.

If a bunch of people enjoy it & wanna do it again immediately maybe we can have a off season league for a lower buy in or not from Mexican Independence Day to Cinco De Mayo.

I love the idea of the season & I like that it doesn't line up directly with the regular pick em game.

Also gives us some time to talk out the options on how we wanna run things & work out the details. Plus hype it. I'm sure May is gonna be a more hyped time of the year here than now so might be able to entice more folks into playing with a concentration on the bigger fights.

I'm thinking we run a kinda small pilot starting in the next few weeks, maybe the 10 of us already expressed an interest - whether we do it for money this first time round or not is optional.

Just gives us a chance to try out some ideas see how the thing would work. Like I say I already commited to the regular Pick Em so I'm not willing to take on a big extra workload, but I'm interested enough to help figuring how this thing would run plus it'll also give me a chance to experiment with a few ideas that I might be able to incorporate into the regular Pick Em.

Point being just as a initial shot I'm only thinking about doing this over maybe 10 fights or so, figure out how to get the spreadsheets working (there's a coupla ideas I'm thinking of tinkering with there too) figure out if people like the scoring sytem and it's balanced and so forth. In fact looking at the schedule I'd be pretty much willing to just get on with it using the six 4 and 5 star fights that are already up on Boxrec, starting with Leo vs Fulton and Ending with Gallo vs Choco on the 13th March. Do that and then we'd have a good Idea how the thing would work in time for a May - Sept season.

Other idea I've got in mind is what about giving picks in a more precise form ie KOs by round and DEC picks by actual total points seperation? So LEO KO 7 or FULTON DEC 13 and then scoring based on how close to the actual result the prediction was... So... IDK..just throwing ideas out but something like 100 points for picking the actual KO round and winner precisely 80 for picking an adjacent round 60 for within 3 rounds and 50 for anything else, or for DEC PICKs maybe work the same sort of idea based around multiples of 3. So 100 points for the exact points margin or 1 point either side, 80 points for 4 or less either side 60 points for 10 or less either side... Anyway you get the idea. I'll sit down and have a little think and it'd probably be pretty simply to build an equation for it I could just slot into a spreadsheet, but I'm just throwing ideas out for now..

Also if we're gonna do an Odds multiplier system - especially one where we got money at stake - we'll want to pin down exactly whichs odds we're gonna use and specify exactly when we're gonna take 'em. Most obvious I'd say would be to take the odds at the opening bell from a site we all agree in advance. It might mean that we ain't got full info at the time we make our picks cos the oddds might shift, but the important think is we got something consistent that we all agreed on and picking odds from an early time - say a week out or something - will cause problems if there ain't any at that time (although this'd be rare for bigger fights).

Damn... right, lunchbreak over... gotta get back to doing a bit of home schooling for lil Koba... The joys of lockdown...

[Eff Pandas]

I'm thinking we run a kinda small pilot starting in the next few weeks, maybe the 10 of us already expressed an interest - whether we do it for money this first time round or not is optional.

Yea that's fair & I'm down for that. I'm cool with doing it with money for this pilot run of the concept. I'm cool with up to $100. And to make it simple as long as we got long time respected guys in we can just do the honor system like Shoulder Roll mentioned they do in one of the fantasy leagues here. That way we don't gotta complicate things right off with an escrow situation & finding ways to ship money around.

I'd be pretty much willing to just get on with it using the six 4 and 5 star fights that are already up on Boxrec, starting with Leo vs Fulton and Ending with Gallo vs Choco on the 13th March. Do that and then we'd have a good Idea how the thing would work in time for a May - Sept season.

Makes sense.

Other idea I've got in mind is what about giving picks in a more precise form ie KOs by round and DEC picks by actual total points seperation? So LEO KO 7 or FULTON DEC 13 and then scoring based on how close to the actual result the prediction was... So... IDK..just throwing ideas out but something like 100 points for picking the actual KO round and winner precisely 80 for picking an adjacent round 60 for within 3 rounds and 50 for anything else, or for DEC PICKs maybe work the same sort of idea based around multiples of 3. So 100 points for the exact points margin or 1 point either side, 80 points for 4 or less either side 60 points for 10 or less either side...

That seems like it'd make the process more complicated for you more than anyone else. So I'm not opposed to considering it, but it seems kinda complicated in explanation & probably execution.

Also if we're gonna do an Odds multiplier system - especially one where we got money at stake - we'll want to pin down exactly whichs odds we're gonna use and specify exactly when we're gonna take 'em. Most obvious I'd say would be to take the odds at the opening bell from a site we all agree in advance. It might mean that we ain't got full info at the time we make our picks cos the oddds might shift, but the important think is we got something consistent that we all agreed on and picking odds from an early time - say a week out or something - will cause problems if there ain't any at that time (although this'd be rare for bigger fights).

Definitely would have to agree on a source for the odds. That shouldn't be hard to come up with doe just a matter of picking the one most like.

The when are we using the odds from issue is a interesting question doe & one I've thought about before. I kinda like the idea of just making the line at some preagreed time like day of, 3 or 5 days out The Line. It's simple & ez. But I see the upside to having an accurate line at all times, but then you complicate things by guys wanting to alter their picks too much & it's just harder to keep up with. So I think going the simple & ez route there is the play it's just a matter of what we decide is the best preagreed to time to take the line from.

Generally boxing lines don't shift THAT much outside of the day they pop up & the day of the fight. So maybe going the route of using a 5 day out line to give the best info on your point potential & requiring a pick the day before the fight is doable. Or maybe giving less info early on points potential & using a post time odds works too. It would just kinda suck for you if we use the post time odds option & your dog shifts to a favorite in the minutes before a fight lol. Can't imagine that is happening THAT much so I'm kinda whatever-ish on either option I brought up & curious if others got better/different ideas.

[KillaMane26]

Dude said wit yo broke ass.....😂😂

[TheMyspaceDayz]

Too much reading. Sign me up and give me your money.

[Citizen Koba]

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Okay gents, apologies... I was meaning to have this little tete a tete a few days ago but I figured I oughta get the main Pick Em rolling first and then I just had like a mental block with it or something... or maybe I'm just a lazy mfer. Jury's still out.

Ok so ... who's in for a short pilot version? $20 stake honour system for this trial.

6 fights (all 4* or 5* title fights per Boxrec)

Leo vs Fulton 1/23
Diaz vs Rakhimov 2/13
Teixera vs Castano 2/13
Smith vs Vlasov 2/13
Berchelt vs Valdez 2/20
Estrada vs Gonzalez 3/13

Any suggestions for other fights would be welcome.

Scoring system 2 options - please let me know which you prefer

1) As per the regular Pick Em but doubled up 40/20/20 for Winner/Method/Detail. Mulitpliers available: 1 x2 and 1 x3. Odds multipliers... any winning pick gets multiplied by the decimal odds (winnings+stake) on the fighter at a time and from the bookies agreed by all of us.

2) New system giving 50 points for correct winner plus a sliding scale of between 10ish and 50 for the accuracy of the method pick in the format KO+RND# or DEC+PTS diff.
Also using a decimal odds multiplier and 1 x2 and 1 x3 (multipliers multiply together)

Please get back to me ASAP to get this thing rolling, let me know if you're in or not and which if any options you like or if you want to see any different fight in or whatever or change the stake or anything else.

idea is just more of a trial run - see how the thing works and stuff so we got a better idea what to expect and what the pitfalls might be going in to a larger May to September sweepstake.

EDIT: Formula used for scoring method 2 would be for KOs
50x 2/(2+|r-p|) where r is result (either KO round or points seperation) and p is the pick (KO round or points seperation). For DEC picks the value |r-p| is divided by 3 and roundedbefore being operated on.

Gives 50 points for picking the precise round or points difference within 1, 33 for 1 round away or upto 4 points away, 25 for 2 rounds off or upto 7 points, 20 points for 3 rounds or upto 10 points out etc etc following the sequence; 50x 2/2, 2/3, 2/4, 2/5, 2/6 etc....

[SN!PER]

Citizen Koba

The selection of fights is excellent.

As for the scoring system, both methods are okay. But if the players are closely divided on the issue, then I lean towards Option 1, the traditional method.

Either way, I'm looking forward to the challenge of the game. Count me in, thanks.

[Citizen Koba]

If Warrington Vs Can Xu comes together for next month we might want to see about including that too...

[Marchegiano]

Still game.

[Eff Pandas]

I'm in for option 1.

Why you double the points on the standard game doe?

[ShoulderRoll]

I'm in. Option 1 would be my preference as well.