Breadman is correct: “truth..GGG didn’t win the 1st fight (against Canelo)”

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  • boogbx
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    #11
    I scored the first fight 7-5 Canelo and the second 8-4 that could’ve easily been 9-3.

    Triple G don’t get points for
    Hitting air and refusing to go to the body out of fear of a counter. That’s points for Canelo on defense and ring generalship.

    Not to mention Canelo consistently landed the harder shots in both fights.

    He don’t KO Golovkin in a 3rd fight but beats him soundly.

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    • TernceBudCharlo
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      #12
      I had GGG winning the fight, although it was a very unimpressive performance

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      • Mindgames
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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra
        Coming forward missing punches doesn't win you fights. Canelo won because of defense & his ring generalship caused GGG's aggression to be ineffective.
        Nobody thought Canelo won fight one and that includes the guy in this article lol

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        • TernceBudCharlo
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          #14
          Canelo only won if there's a new rule that jabs aren't scoring punches in boxing anymore. This is why I also had Trout and Lara beating Canelo, the JAB.

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          • Thuglife Nelo
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            #15
            Originally posted by Curt Henning
            i had the exact same card as andre ward in regards to lopez/loma.....but without looking at that i said "if loma wins the 12th hes goinna take this".....and i was shocked at how little he did and how teo took that 12th so convincingly....

            anyways..yeah i agree...i have canelo winning both fights...first one being real close....but i thought canelo won the 2nd convincingly imo....in a fight that he obliged golovkins wishes for.....its unfortunate that golovkins fanbois cant accept anything
            Originally posted by Kaspa9t9
            Had GGG winning the first fight, but clear decision for Canelo in the second.

            I haven't actually watched the first fight back, may do that and see if I think any different.
            Objectively speaking Canelo was monkeying around in the first fight, playing rope a dope like a boss and using the ring like never before. We never seen Canelo do any of that since GGG was his toughest opponent, so what we saw was Canelo adapting in real-time. JCC said Canelo clearly won and was more of a fan of GGG before hand.

            Canelo doesn’t get credit for any circular movement against GGG. It doesn’t matter if Lara did it because LARA CALLED OUT CANELO. If he wanted to fight Canelo then he should have. That may be paradoxical, but the point is that both GGg and Canelo were friends before hand, no animosity. So Canelo’s performance with his power punching risk taking doesn’t get any credit.. I don’t know why.

            Fans won’t ever admit it and I don’t know the best way to explain it, but Breadman did, and that authority makes a little difference even though George Foreman and Tyson had Canelo winning. Maybe all the power punchers in Chavez, Foreman, Tyson didn’t like that GGg didn’t risk power punching as he usually did? You must think what’s going on in their minds.

            I think if GGG had never trolled about a Mexican style narrative then most people would’ve solely focused on Eastern Euro controllability in the ring. As Breadman said, GGG miscalculated and the judges didn’t like that.

            As Floyd would tell Robert Guerrero to his face; “however you want it” and Guerrero said, “ok let’s go toe to toe.” Sometimes we as fans have to be intrigued about such dares. If the fighters don’t own up to that it could be seen doubling back to the judges and fans

            We all know Breadman knows Mexican Bidness is all day errrday! Especially Mexican Food! Breakfast of Champions!

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            • TernceBudCharlo
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              #16
              Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

              Canelo doesn’t get credit for any circular movement against GGG. It doesn’t matter if Lara did it because LARA CALLED OUT CANELO.
              Get out of here man, the goal is to win the fight using whatever style works best for you

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              • -Kev-
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                #17
                Originally posted by boogbx
                I scored the first fight 7-5 Canelo and the second 8-4 that could’ve easily been 9-3.

                Triple G don’t get points for
                Hitting air and refusing to go to the body out of fear of a counter. That’s points for Canelo on defense and ring generalship.

                Not to mention Canelo consistently landed the harder shots in both fights.

                He don’t KO Golovkin in a 3rd fight but beats him soundly.
                Same here.

                7-5 Canelo for first fight.

                Rematch could’ve been a wide decision for Canelo for all I care. GGG was just jabbing and moving around, he threw punches with good power and substance in maybe 3-4 rounds. I’m not entirely sure when is that fans choose to score effective aggression and hard punches landed but they seem to pick their spots when they do it. GGG outjabbed Canelo in both fights, great for him, but judges don’t care about you throwing 250 punches with 200 of them being jabs. That just doesn’t look good at all to judges who don’t have the benefit of replay or highlights. The easier punches to score are the hard power punches that fans react to. Fans don’t react to jabs all that much. Judges have a trained eye to see all punches, but it doesn’t matter, the human eye will always see the harder punches landed in the round as the guy who won the round. Unless they are biased to the guy throwing jabs all night and feel that’s enough to win. Which is the case for those who had GGG winning either fight.

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                • Curt Henning
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
                  Objectively speaking Canelo was monkeying around in the first fight, playing rope a dope like a boss and using the ring like never before. We never seen Canelo do any of that since GGG was his toughest opponent, so what we saw was Canelo adapting in real-time. JCC said Canelo clearly won and was more of a fan of GGG before hand.

                  Canelo doesn’t get credit for any circular movement against GGG. It doesn’t matter if Lara did it because LARA CALLED OUT CANELO. If he wanted to fight Canelo then he should have. That may be paradoxical, but the point is that both GGg and Canelo were friends before hand, no animosity. So Canelo’s performance with his power punching risk taking doesn’t get any credit.. I don’t know why.

                  Fans won’t ever admit it and I don’t know the best way to explain it, but Breadman did, and that authority makes a little difference even though George Foreman and Tyson had Canelo winning. Maybe all the power punchers in Chavez, Foreman, Tyson didn’t like that GGg didn’t risk power punching as he usually did? You must think what’s going on in their minds.

                  I think if GGG had never trolled about a Mexican style narrative then most people would’ve solely focused on Eastern Euro controllability in the ring. As Breadman said, GGG miscalculated and the judges didn’t like that.

                  As Floyd would tell Robert Guerrero to his face; “however you want it” and Guerrero said, “ok let’s go toe to toe.” Sometimes we as fans have to be intrigued about such dares. If the fighters don’t own up to that it could be seen doubling back to the judges and fans

                  We all know Breadman knows Mexican Bidness is all day errrday! Especially Mexican Food! Breakfast of Champions!
                  i always stand by this belief...in the first fight canelo had bought into the golovkin myth and gave him a ton of respect...which is why he fought the way he did...once he went 12 with golovkin he realized he wasnt all he was built up to be and what canelo thought he was too....which is why he happily obliged golovkins request in the 2nd...he didnt fear golovkin

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                  • TernceBudCharlo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                    I think if GGG had never trolled about a Mexican style narrative then most people would’ve solely focused on Eastern Euro controllability in the ring. As Breadman said, GGG miscalculated and the judges didn’t like that.

                    As Floyd would tell Robert Guerrero to his face; “however you want it” and Guerrero said, “ok let’s go toe to toe.” Sometimes we as fans have to be intrigued about such dares. If the fighters don’t own up to that it could be seen doubling back to the judges and fans
                    s!
                    I think this was more Abel Sanchez fault. I always thought it was really ****** of Abel to tell canelo to come forward. They might as well have just thrown in the towel on the second fight by begging canelo to fight that way, Anyone who knows boxing knew GGG can't fight off the back foot, **** Canelo wasn't the first to do it, Kassim Ouma had a ton of success against GGG by pressuring him back. So did Danny Jacobs. Even Canelo's own corner knew this and in between rounds they were telling him to stay off the ropes and press the action.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Mindgames
                      Nobody thought Canelo won fight one and that includes the guy in this article lol
                      George Foreman and Tyson had Canelo winning the fight, and Breadman is admitting the Draw was justified. HENCE “Draw.”

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