Uk suspends boxing

[Citizen Koba]

Programming us to get used to being compliant to whatever our government tells us, next they’ll make new vaccines within a couple weeks for the new strains even though it takes years to make a proper vaccine!

Civil war between those who comply to government and those who don’t

Race war

Class warfare

I'm all for a bit of class war my friend, and I'm right with you that our governments have a lot to be held to account for, bur not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy, man.

Sometimes stuff just happens.

I gootta be wondering what conspiracies woulda been dreamed up if our various national governments had decided against lockdowns or distancing measures... I am almost willing to bet that the exact same folk complaining now would be talking about some mass depopulation project or some craziness.

Governments are made of people and people make poor choices, get things wrong or just have to compromise or improvise based on incomplete information. Just glad it ain't me had to make those kinds of decisions about peoples lives and livelihoods.

[ShoulderRoll]

I'm all for a bit of class war my friend, and I'm right with you that our governments have a lot to be held to account for, bur not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy, man.

Sometimes stuff just happens.

I gootta be wondering what conspiracies woulda been dreamed up if our various national governments had decided against lockdowns... I am almost willing to be that the exact same folk complaining now would be talking about some mass depopulation project or some craziness.

Governments are made of people and people make poor choices, get things wrong or just have to compromise or improvise based on incomplete information. Just glad it ain't me had to make those kinds of decisions about peoples lives and livelihoods.

Not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy. But some things are, and it heartens me to see that more and more people are becoming open to the idea and noticing evidence of it.

The problem has to be accurately identified if we hope to fix it properly.

[Citizen Koba]

Not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy. But some things are, and it heartens me to see that more and more people are becoming open to the idea and noticing evidence of it.

The problem has to be accurately identified if we hope to fix it properly.

It's good that folk are becoming more aware, man, but we also need to guard against misinformation from fear mongers and fantasists - and there's plenty of 'em around. Just cos someone believes that our governments ain't to be trusted doesn't automatically make em good or rational or a trusted source of information.

In the case of COVID the science is available from multiple sources internationally, we got data coming outta our ears... we can fairly argue over the correct policy decisions , but what I'm seeing all too often is some weird kinda denialism or antiscience, based primarily on sketchy sources or deliberate misinterpretation... or often just plain paranoia.

Yes we should always ask the questions, always maintain a healthy scepticism, but to become pathologically mistrustful is no better than being too trusting I think.... one of the great crises of our era I think though, folk not knowing who they can trust. One of the reasons the skills of methodical enquiry are so important to grasp. - learn how to check and cross check and seek out primary sources and data, find shit out for yourself.

[deathofaclown]

some fights like Kelly vs Avanesyan are not ppv fights, so the best thing eddie can do with that is reschedule it for a date in the US under Dazn.
do it at 4pm in america.

Decent idea but sadly can’t happen

It wasn’t on PPV anyway and there’s no crowds, so it makes no difference where it’s held. In theory it would be a good idea

The reason it can’t happen though is sky are the main broadcaster for the fight and if it goes to DAZN in USA , well DAZN now broadcast the fights on their own app in the UK, they’re no longer on Sky.

I guess they essentially could cancel the fight and just reschedule it with a new contract and have DAZN as the broadcaster. it wouldn’t do eddies and sky’s relationship much good.

[ShoulderRoll]

It's good that folk are becoming more aware, man, but we also need to guard against misinformation from fear mongers and fantasists - and there's plenty of 'em around. Just cos someone believes that our governments ain't to be trusted doesn't automatically make em good or rational or a trusted source of information.

In the case of COVID the science is available from multiple sources internationally, we got data coming outta our ears... we can fairly argue over the correct policy decisions , but what I'm seeing all too often is some weird kinda denialism or antiscience, based primarily on sketchy sources or deliberate misinterpretation... or often just plain paranoia.

Yes we should always ask the questions, always maintain a healthy scepticism, but to become pathologically mistrustful is no better than being too trusting I think.... one of the great crises of our era I think though, folk not knowing who they can trust. One of the reasons the skills of methodical enquiry are so important to grasp. - learn how to check and cross check and seek out primary sources and data, find shit out for yourself.

COVID is real. But who created it, and why, is still under some doubt. The trail goes from Wuhan to military labs in the US and Canada.

Anthony Fauci seems to be tied in as well. And we know that for years before this he has been part of a vaccine "alliance" that includes the World Bank and Bill Gates.

If your primary sources and data are coming from academic journals even that can't be trusted. You have to see who funds the studies and the journals themselves, as these benefactors get a huge say in what gets published.

[Chrismart]

If the city hospitals are busy and a spike expected because of christmas gatherings, maybe the NHS being stretched to cover boxing events is a reasoning for the BBBofC to put things on hold for a bit.

For boxing fans, at least it comes at a fairly quiet time in the schedule.

[Citizen Koba]

COVID is real. But who created it, and why, is still under some doubt. The trail goes from Wuhan to military labs in the US and Canada.

Anthony Fauci seems to be tied in as well. And we know that for years before this he has been part of a vaccine "alliance" that includes the World Bank and Bill Gates.

If your primary sources and data are coming from academic journals even that can't be trusted. You have to see who funds the studies and the journals themselves, as these benefactors get a huge say in what gets published.

Indeed, I got some familiarity with how the academic world works but at some point when you got to make a decision... ultimately you can trust nothing if you follow that rabbit hole far enough, if you want to believe in a conspiracy vast enough, but what then are you basing your own beliefs upon? Ultimately that information too has been created by men, presented by men, writen by men... with their own agendas and their own peculiariites.

Why then would you finfd that information believable when you're willing to distrust far more rigorous - and far more testable information which has undergone both peer review and has transparency, where you can actually get the raw data and look at it yourself? Anyway... each of us got to navigate these paths in their own way, I got a scientific inclination, and I'm willing to toothcomb scientific papers where necessary (used to do that kinda shit for pay for a time) so I tend to lean to that which I can actually check and try to minimise that which relies on speculation or assumption... just how I'm built... if that makes me too guarded in my beliefs I'm willing to take that chance.

Funny thing I ask myself sometimes about dudes like Gates or Soros... now I'm fundamntally of the belief that those concentrations of wealth are fundamentally un********ic and that there is every moral right for the society without the which that wealth could not have been created to tax the ass off that ish... but let's just say you had that vast amount of money - $$$ billions - somehow but wanted to do good things with it, to make the lot of humanity better... how would you do it in such a way that no-one would point the finger at you and claim it was part of some nefarious plot? Worth a ponder I think...

[Marchegiano]

I'm American so wtf do I know, but, as someone who cares for a terminally ill child whose illness is a breathing one and will definitely die if she were to get covid I have two things to say.

Thank you, all those that take extra measures even though the virus would do little to you, it's moving.

These shutdowns do more harm than good. You, the state, ordinances, do not protect my child; I do. All any of it has done for me is make sure every step is more pain in the ass than it used to be. Nice, heartwarming kumbaya bull**** that ends up being a lot of red tape in the way of the same old same old.


When you can die from the flu covid isn't anything new except for all the other mugs forced into behaving like they could too.

I only have a few political subjects that I feel I actually know and well. This one and international trade.

May as well kick out that other too. Because it's funny, I feel the same way. It's sweet congress/presidents give a **** about China now. Stop making tariffs and **** though and let me handle my ****. Been kicking Chinese ass for over a decade and I'll do it a decade more.

All I need is **** to stay normal. Not have to get a ****ing update just to know how to scratch ass the legal way. I can handle my ****, y'all government just **** it up and force me to find new ways to do the same, exact, old **** I always did.

[Marchegiano]

Indeed, I got some familiarity with how the academic world works but at some point when you got to make a decision... ultimately you can trust nothing if you follow that rabbit hole far enough, if you want to believe in a conspiracy vast enough, but what then are you basing your own beliefs upon? Ultimately that information too has been created by men, presented by men, writen by men... with their own agendas and their own peculiariites.

Why then would you finfd that information believable when you're willing to distrust far more rigorous - and far more testable information which has undergone both peer review and has transparency, where you can actually get the raw data and look at it yourself? Anyway... each of us got to navigate these paths in their own way, I got a scientific inclination, and I'm willing to toothcomb scientific papers where necessary (used to do that kinda shit for pay for a time) so I tend to lean to that which I can actually check and try to minimise that which relies on speculation or assumption... just how I'm build... if that makes me guarded in my beliefs I'm willing to take that chance.

Funny thing I ask myself sometimes about dudes like Gates or Soros... now I'm fundamntally of the belief that those concentrations of wealth are fundamentally un********ic and that there is every moral right for the society without the which that wealth could not have been created to tax the ass off that ish... but let's just say you had that vast amount of money - $$$ billions - somehow but wanted to do good things with it, to make the lot of humanity better... how would you do it in such a way that no-one would point the finger at you and claim it was part of some nefarious plot? Worth a ponder I think...

Not a royalist then?

[ShoulderRoll]

Indeed, I got some familiarity with how the academic world works but at some point when you got to make a decision... ultimately you can trust nothing if you follow that rabbit hole far enough, if you want to believe in a conspiracy vast enough, but what then are you basing your own beliefs upon? Ultimately that information too has been created by men, presented by men, writen by men... with their own agendas and their own peculiariites.

Why then would you finfd that information believable when you're willing to distrust far more rigorous - and far more testable information which has undergone both peer review and has transparency, where you can actually get the raw data and look at it yourself? Anyway... each of us got to navigate these paths in their own way, I got a scientific inclination, and I'm willing to toothcomb scientific papers where necessary (used to do that kinda shit for pay for a time) so I tend to lean to that which I can actually check and try to minimise that which relies on speculation or assumption... just how I'm build... if that makes me guarded in my beliefs I'm willing to take that chance.

Funny thing I ask myself sometimes about dudes like Gates or Soros... now I'm fundamntally of the belief that those concentrations of wealth are fundamentally un********ic and that there is every moral right for the society without the which that wealth could not have been created to tax the ass off that ish... but let's just say you had that vast amount of money - $$$ billions - somehow but wanted to do good things with it, to make the lot of humanity better... how would you do it in such a way that no-one would point the finger at you and claim it was part of some nefarious plot? Worth a ponder I think...

A lot of my sources come from older times, before so much was compromised and taken over by the cabal.

Peer review and testing used to be the gold standard. But when entire universities and corporations are beholden to the same interests that's no longer a guarantee of anything.

The world is in a messed up state right now. I think you would agree. It's just a matter of whether it came about by greed and incompetence...or if it came about deliberately and made to look like greed and incompetence were to blame.

As for having billions and wanting to do good in the world? The fruits of those efforts should be easy to see. Soros has been banned from entire countries. I don't think that is because he is just misunderstood.