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  • Citizen Koba
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    #51
    Originally posted by Marchegiano
    Not a royalist then?
    Ha ha... not so much, that chit's an embarrassment in any society even claiming to be a democracy way I look at it.

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    • boogbx
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      #52
      Covids real but overly exaggerated.

      Governments are corrupt and dishonest.

      People are ****** as fucc especially those on social media.

      This new age should be wiped off the planet. It’s a shame this virus targets elders and not the youth.

      British boxing sucks anyways.

      Can we move on?

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      • Citizen Koba
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        #53
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
        A lot of my sources come from older times, before so much was compromised and taken over by the cabal.

        Peer review and testing used to be the gold standard. But when entire universities and corporations are beholden to the same interests that's no longer a guarantee of anything.

        The world is in a messed up state right now. I think you would agree. It's just a matter of whether it came about by greed and incompetence...or if it came about deliberately and made to look like greed and incompetence were to blame.

        As for having billions and wanting to do good in the world? The fruits of those efforts should be easy to see. Soros has been banned from entire countries. I don't think that is because he is just misunderstood.
        I've seen some of your sources, man, and read them and what I saw was a few facts sewn together with a whole lot of speculation and personal interpretation man. It also seemed to come from a particularly Americo-centric perspective of history though, which is possibly why it didn't fall on very fertile soil with me.

        Not quite sure what 'older 'times you mean, man, but believe me there's nothing new about conspiratorial and/or paranoid ideas and writings. Age doesn't imply accuracy. That said without having investigated thoroughly I won't dismiss anything out of hand either. I've read enough history to be able to offer some very different takes on at least some of the facts presented and the offers there if you wanted me to go over 'em in more detail for a critique and some of the issues I picked up on.

        EDIT: Interesting read here that touches on some of the history of conspriatorialism and paranoia in the US political arena, read it a few months back researching something else entirely but you might find it interesting.



        Also this article on a book I seriously want to read about the relationships between the oil independents and their funding of christian fundamentalism and their battle with the likes of the Rockefellers and the funding of modernism - a divide which is clearly relevent in todays politics I think and also ghas a bearing on some of the beliefs you hold I think.



        Nothing happens in a vacuum man, those ideas, those beliefs you have, someone is pushing them, someone is promoting them...someone put 'em on a website espousing home education and a traditional white christian progession of history behind a button labelled 'SECRETS' knowing that that's the best way of drawing attention to 'em. You think that ish just got there by accident? Your enemies enemy ain't necessarily your friend, man.

        And Soros... have you looked at his funding programs and where he puts his money? I have... it was, ironically, one of those right leaning 'leaks' types sites, accessed via wayback and partially redacted, spent half a day digging up old - supposedly hidden - files from an internal report showing he supoorts groups similar to *** in the US or whatever... but I also looked at what he funds internationally. Dude gives money to organisations supporting persecuted and disadvantaged groups the world over mainly, that and to supporting and strengthening independent judiciaries in countries where the legal system is essentially used as a tool of state power.

        Ain't really surprised there's a few auithoritarian states like Hungary really don't like him or just straight banned him... but those are the folk I tend to consider the bad guys. So whilst it is un********ic and I consider there's gotta be something fundamentally wrong with a society which can concentrate that degree of wealth and power into one pair of hands I'm actually struggling to see what the guy's doing that's led to him being painted as some agent of evil.
        Last edited by Citizen Koba; 01-03-2021, 07:14 PM.

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        • Bain01D
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          #54
          Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo
          I would never support violence, but you can fight back against the lies of the NWO by spreading the good word, information, and just getting education. We can do that but people need to wake up and try to resist the media, tech and government brainwashing that occurs every day! But you're right, when you speak out, the government today will censor you and try and pin you down for **** like that.
          Jesus!! No wonder some of the posts on here make no sense, get your tin foil hats on!!

          ‘Resist the tech’ unless it’s to post on the boxing forums hahahaha

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            #55
            Originally posted by Citizen Koba
            I'm all for a bit of class war my friend, and I'm right with you that our governments have a lot to be held to account for, bur not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy, man.

            Sometimes stuff just happens.

            I gootta be wondering what conspiracies woulda been dreamed up if our various national governments had decided against lockdowns or distancing measures... I am almost willing to bet that the exact same folk complaining now would be talking about some mass depopulation project or some craziness.

            Governments are made of people and people make poor choices, get things wrong or just have to compromise or improvise based on incomplete information. Just glad it ain't me had to make those kinds of decisions about peoples lives and livelihoods.
            Glad someone on here hasn’t lost the plot!

            Are we the only two who don’t think it was the shape shifting lizards?

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              #56
              Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
              Not everything has to be part of a grand conspiracy. But some things are, and it heartens me to see that more and more people are becoming open to the idea and noticing evidence of it.

              The problem has to be accurately identified if we hope to fix it properly.
              Which conspiracy is this? 9/11, the lizard people, vaccines, flat earth??

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                #57
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                COVID is real. But who created it, and why, is still under some doubt. The trail goes from Wuhan to military labs in the US and Canada.

                Anthony Fauci seems to be tied in as well. And we know that for years before this he has been part of a vaccine "alliance" that includes the World Bank and Bill Gates.

                If your primary sources and data are coming from academic journals even that can't be trusted. You have to see who funds the studies and the journals themselves, as these benefactors get a huge say in what gets published.
                So don’t trust the sources of the data, unless it’s your sources?

                How do I know which ones that are?

                Help me

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                • Bain01D
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Chrismart
                  If the city hospitals are busy and a spike expected because of christmas gatherings, maybe the NHS being stretched to cover boxing events is a reasoning for the BBBofC to put things on hold for a bit.

                  For boxing fans, at least it comes at a fairly quiet time in the schedule.
                  It is, when you read the article is the medical rep within the BBBofC that said all boxing should be off to not stretch the nhs more

                  The reason the nhs are struggling so much is all the staff are either off sick with covid or self isolating due to contact

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                  • Bain01D
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                    Indeed, I got some familiarity with how the academic world works but at some point when you got to make a decision... ultimately you can trust nothing if you follow that rabbit hole far enough, if you want to believe in a conspiracy vast enough, but what then are you basing your own beliefs upon? Ultimately that information too has been created by men, presented by men, writen by men... with their own agendas and their own peculiariites.

                    Why then would you finfd that information believable when you're willing to distrust far more rigorous - and far more testable information which has undergone both peer review and has transparency, where you can actually get the raw data and look at it yourself? Anyway... each of us got to navigate these paths in their own way, I got a scientific inclination, and I'm willing to toothcomb scientific papers where necessary (used to do that kinda shit for pay for a time) so I tend to lean to that which I can actually check and try to minimise that which relies on speculation or assumption... just how I'm built... if that makes me too guarded in my beliefs I'm willing to take that chance.

                    Funny thing I ask myself sometimes about dudes like Gates or Soros... now I'm fundamntally of the belief that those concentrations of wealth are fundamentally un********ic and that there is every moral right for the society without the which that wealth could not have been created to tax the ass off that ish... but let's just say you had that vast amount of money - $$$ billions - somehow but wanted to do good things with it, to make the lot of humanity better... how would you do it in such a way that no-one would point the finger at you and claim it was part of some nefarious plot? Worth a ponder I think...
                    So not everyone on here is crazy! Thank the lord!

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                    • Bain01D
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by boogbx
                      Covids real but overly exaggerated.

                      Governments are corrupt and dishonest.

                      People are ****** as fucc especially those on social media.

                      This new age should be wiped off the planet. It’s a shame this virus targets elders and not the youth.

                      British boxing sucks anyways.

                      Can we move on?
                      So glad we have such intelligent people like you to guide us sheep!

                      When this age is wiped off the planet do you get to stay because you’re the only one who see the truth??

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