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Comments Thread For: Ramirez: I Want Bivol, I Want Beterbiev, I Will Beat Them All At Light Heavyweight

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  • #21
    Originally posted by budfr View Post
    You are irrelevant...keep hyping Eastern Europeans, judging by your nikname you are eihter a self-hater or Puerto Rican.El Gancho
    Why you mad i didnt smash your girl foo

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    • #22
      You can't take Beterbiev's body shots.

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      • #23
        He better get in line because Bob Arum owns all the light heavyweights and they're all really good. He's already stated that Ramirez and Beterbiev will fight once and then fight eachother. Those two fights could literally take an entire year.

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        • #24
          They both beat him easily.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by steeve steel View Post
            Bivol would outbox him, Berterbiev would crush him.
            You are making the mistake of paying attention to talent, styles, and how well the boxers have performed in the past against similar level competition over a large sample size. You are forgetting what actually matters. Zurdo is Mexican, Bivol and Beterbiev are Russian. The west is where the big boxing $ is generated, and there are a lot more Mexicans in the west paying attention to boxing than Russians and Ukrainians, apparently.

            Based on that alone, I would have no idea who to pick if Zurdo fought Bivol or Beterbiev. Based on past performances, those are easy picks, but so were GGG vs Canelo, Lomachenko vs Teofimo, Kovalev vs Ward at 175 (Paul Smith hurt Ward at a 172 catchweight ffs), Jirov vs James Toney, Klitschko vs Tyson Fury, etc etc, and all those fights went to the western fighter who had looked much less impressive going into those fights instead.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Boxing Logic View Post
              You are making the mistake of paying attention to talent, styles, and how well the boxers have performed in the past against similar level competition over a large sample size. You are forgetting what actually matters. Zurdo is Mexican, Bivol and Beterbiev are Russian. The west is where the big boxing $ is generated, and there are a lot more Mexicans in the west paying attention to boxing than Russians and Ukrainians, apparently.

              Based on that alone, I would have no idea who to pick if Zurdo fought Bivol or Beterbiev. Based on past performances, those are easy picks, but so were GGG vs Canelo, Lomachenko vs Teofimo, Kovalev vs Ward at 175 (Paul Smith hurt Ward at a 172 catchweight ffs), Jirov vs James Toney, Klitschko vs Tyson Fury, etc etc, and all those fights went to the western fighter who had looked much less impressive going into those fights instead.
              This is boxing, so anything can happen! That's one of the reasons we like the sport so much.

              This said, some things, although possible, are highly improbable. I list Ramirez beating these 2 in that category. (But would a decision against Bivol with judges in the likes of Adelaide Bird come as a big surprise? Not really.)

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              • #27
                I’d like to see zurdo fight either one of those 2 guys. Win or lose I think he would give them a nice tough fight

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by steeve steel View Post
                  This is boxing, so anything can happen! That's one of the reasons we like the sport so much.

                  This said, some things, although possible, are highly improbable. I list Ramirez beating these 2 in that category. (But would a decision against Bivol with judges in the likes of Adelaide Bird come as a big surprise? Not really.)
                  I don't think it's true that "anything can happen." The cash cow of the sport never seems to lose in his prime, for one. And I don't think we like the sport so much. I think the sport is in really bad shape right now, and I've lost interest. It's so predictable, and the fights aren't even entertaining anymore. Just lots of posing and flick jabs. Everything looks like sparring now.

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                  • #29
                    Go ahead. I want to see him against Bivol so make that fight now. On the flipside if thats git to wait then fight Yarde both guys are trying to comeback and Zurdo needs to show he's serious

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                    • #30
                      This big mouthed coward always talks about big fights while cherry picking bums. This guy is a joke.

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