Deontay Wilder vs Oleksandr Usyk

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  • Inspired
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    #21
    Originally posted by Armchairhero
    Rubbish... Wilder won’t be getting lit up by Usyk, he will eventually go full windmill mode and one of those will connect.
    Wilder is garbage but he still has one punch power, Usyk can’t KO him, there is nothing to stop Wilder going for the kill once he gets frustrated.
    usyk might well stop wilder. wilder doesnt have the best of chins given that he was wobbled by washington and spiltka.

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #22
      Originally posted by hhh1200
      Usyk wins a lot of rounds but doesn't move his head. Chisora was touching and Wilder won't gas out. Late KO for Wilder.
      - -Deyonce candy done got melted by a mentally derilect popcorn puncher.

      U been inhalin' Deyonce gas?

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      • Armchairhero
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        #23
        Originally posted by Inspired
        usyk might well stop wilder. wilder doesnt have the best of chins given that he was wobbled by washington and spiltka.
        I don’t see it happening, Usyk is easy to hit, I have a hard time seeing any scenario other than Wilder chinning him.

        It gets laughed about on here, but Bellew was out boxing him for the 1st 4/5 rounds, and don’t see what the big deal is about him, as if he’s a heavyweight version of Loma.

        Wilder has took big shots off Ortiz and Fury and was able to recover, he hasn’t got a GGG chin but he isn’t packing ice either.
        Last edited by Armchairhero; 12-29-2020, 01:48 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Armchairhero
          I don’t see it happening, Usyk is easy to hit, I have a hard time seeing any scenario other than Wilder chinning him.

          It gets laughed about on here, but Bellew was out boxing him for the 1st 4/5 rounds, and don’t see what the big deal is about him, as if he’s a heavyweight version of Loma.

          Wilder has took big shots off Ortiz and Fury and was able to recover, he hasn’t got a GGG chin but he isn’t packing ice either.

          'bellew was outboxing him' and how did that work out?
          he knew bellew would gas out.

          key thing about usyk is he doesn't need to show his hand against opponents like bellew and chisora.
          he's a lot better than that.

          As for taking big shots off Ortiz and Fury, which fight?
          Ortiz 1, took big shots..but have you forgotted the corruption that ensued? forgotten that ortiz failed his medical for high blood pressure 1hour before the fight?
          the second ortiz fight was a dud, a total fix where ortiz took a dive for the money. I firmly believe ortiz took a dive, no questions about it. Then seeing ortiz's recent fight with flores, seems to be a pbc speciality. Hard to really gauge anything from that, in fact i even think fury vs wilder 1 was fixed. both sides shaking hands and agreeing to a dodgy pre-determined draw that showcases both their strengths and make joshua look bad.

          fury in the first fight didnt really put it on Wilder and was 50% his best, in the second one we know what went down. sidenote, wilder only took the fight AFTER he saw fury vs otto wallin. he was trying to avoid fury.

          Wilder's chin is terrible if he was getting spiked by spiltka and washington. usyk has more power than those guys.

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          • Armchairhero
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            #25
            Originally posted by Inspired
            'bellew was outboxing him' and how did that work out?
            he knew bellew would gas out.

            key thing about usyk is he doesn't need to show his hand against opponents like bellew and chisora.
            he's a lot better than that.

            As for taking big shots off Ortiz and Fury, which fight?
            Ortiz 1, took big shots..but have you forgotted the corruption that ensued? forgotten that ortiz failed his medical for high blood pressure 1hour before the fight?
            the second ortiz fight was a dud, a total fix where ortiz took a dive for the money. I firmly believe ortiz took a dive, no questions about it. Then seeing ortiz's recent fight with flores, seems to be a pbc speciality. Hard to really gauge anything from that, in fact i even think fury vs wilder 1 was fixed. both sides shaking hands and agreeing to a dodgy pre-determined draw that showcases both their strengths and make joshua look bad.

            fury in the first fight didnt really put it on Wilder and was 50% his best, in the second one we know what went down. sidenote, wilder only took the fight AFTER he saw fury vs otto wallin. he was trying to avoid fury.

            Wilder's chin is terrible if he was getting spiked by spiltka and washington. usyk has more power than those guys.

            Did you type all that under the influence of drugs or are you a tin foil hat nut? None of those fights were fixed, what does Ortiz blood pressure matter when he nearly knocked out the champ?
            He didn’t stay down after big shots from Ortiz or Fury or anyone else. All of the top heavies have been down.

            Usyk was out boxed not because of a master plan, he was just outboxed until they blew out...

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            • Earl-Hickey
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              #26
              Originally posted by Armchairhero
              Did you type all that under the influence of drugs or are you a tin foil hat nut? None of those fights were fixed, what does Ortiz blood pressure matter when he nearly knocked out the champ?
              He didn’t stay down after big shots from Ortiz or Fury or anyone else. All of the top heavies have been down.

              Usyk was out boxed not because of a master plan, he was just outboxed until they blew out...
              Usyk is the first boxer in history who shipping right hands is part of his plan.

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                #27
                Deontay vs Usyk? Yes please.

                Ima say Usyk by wide about 65% and Deontay by KO about 35%. There's a blueprint there that you gotta keep the pressure on Deontay and I think Usyk can pull that off, but he's gonna be going into high risk territory early whilst he's trying to figure out Deontay's speed and timing.

                Honestly be cool to see this fight whichever way it goes though, I know dudes love to shet on Deontay and there's no doubt some of his excuses have been... odd, but there's always gonna be a level of expectation when you got someone who can punch like that.

                I'm in.
                Last edited by Citizen Koba; 12-29-2020, 08:19 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                  Deontay vs Usyk? Yes please.

                  Ima say Usyk by wide about 65% and Deontay by KO about 35%. There's a blueprint there that you gotta keep the pressure on Deontay and I think Usyk can pull that off, but he's gonna be going into high risk territory early whilst he's trying to figure out Deontay's speed and timing.

                  Honestly be cool to see this fight whichever way it goes though, I know dudes love to shet on Deontay and there's no doubt some of his excuses have been... odd, but there's always gonna be a level of expectation when you got someone who can punch like that.

                  I'm in.
                  Watch the Fury fights again, or at least just a little, and see how Tyson picks and chooses when to follow wilder into a corner. There's a big set up Wilder was going for Tyson wouldn't give him in either fight, based on footwork and juxtaposition.

                  Not saying you're wrong, pressure is right, but not to be confused with swarming ala Mike Tyson or some such similar. If Usyk sticks on him too much he'll be knocked right down.

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                  • GreyFox
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                    #29
                    Usyk is not an elusive boxer. He doesn't move his head and can be hit. Wilder will land at some point early on and knock him out.

                    People should stop referencing what Tyson Fury did to Wilder in the second fight. Fury is a 6 ft 9 inch 273 pound heavyweight. Usyk doesn't have those physical tools to pull that off so he will have to come to the taller, longer Wilder to be able to land his shots.

                    Wilder punching down on the smaller Usyk coming in, I see a brutal KO occurring.

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                      #30
                      Does wilder even wanna fight anymore?

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