Comments Thread For: Spence: Pacquiao Fight Is Up To Him; I Like Ugas, He's A Real Fighter - I Don't Know About Thurman

[peplz]

Are we all agreed that Crawford smashes Spence up and takes his belt? Cuz it certainly seems Spence and the PBC are all agreed on it. Won't even mention his name. Do they think he will appear out of a mirror?

Agreed! This is a game of mentality and confidence and they acting real demure and delicate over there. So we know thats part of why all of these excuses are flying everywhere.

[Cobra Curry]

Brook was clinching like the world was going to end. He had it ROUGH.



He was new to the division.

It's like people don't understand, division resume is a thing, too. That's part of the reason why Floyd was B-Side against Oscar, he was new to the division, but beat a top guy.

Think about it logically. Shawn Porter is IBF, WBC and WBO mandatory. He's positioned himself well. Crawford on the other hand is on an island. That island is created by the fact that Fox doesn't care about WBO.

What I'm saying is, Crawford did what Spence said, get a belt, but he went after the one that wasn't going to lead to greatness. He would have been better off challenging Lucas for his WBA. But that would have forced him to fight Keef at some point, and I honestly think BoMac convinced him not to do that.



Problem is, Porter beat them with no asterisks on THEIR turf.

1. Crawford refused to fight Horn in Australia.

2. Crawford faked a hand injury weeks before the fight, which threw off Horn's fight camp and travel timing.

3. Horn was stopped on his feet and Crawford was windmilling like Wilder against Gerald Washington when the ref jumped in. I have the footage, Crawford barely landed anything and Horn was still throwing.





See above.

THE ONLY thing I say, is that Horn should have gotten an immediate rematch just like Keef deserved an immediate rematch. Both fights failed to really answer anything.



ONCE AGAIN, you're rewriting history.

Khan AT THAT TIME, that version, would have put it on the version of Postol that Crawford stared at for 8 rounds.





Al Haymon has no stake in how much Porter makes. Porter is his own promoter. Porter can take whatever he wants to take.

I explained the PBC model elsewhere.

Meanwhile, Crawford has a boss. He can't make fights unless Bob Arum comes out of pocket.


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The "wrong belt" argument doesn't hold up when Spence specifically said Jeff Horn's belt.

Rewriting history? No. You're opinion is Khan beats Postol and that's fair enough. I believe that any version of Khan is liable to get knocked out by anyone at world class and I'm quite sure that history shows us that.

Horn took a one sided beating from Crawford. I don't see how you sell a rematch, even if you feel it was a bit of a UK stoppage. And how are you so certain that Crawford faked an injury? Genuinely curious.

Thurman v Pacquiao 2? Hmmm...I'd watch it but I don't hear any public clamour for one.

Does the PBC model allow for Porter to make an offer? Again, genuinely curious.

[Fire4231]

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LMAO- Let’s make this digestible for the guys who can’t read or learn well...


The only point that needs to be made is that you PBC fans and BOXING FORUM DORKS are just full of long winded hot air and excuses. And I don’t need to make that point to make that point. All I’m doing is pointing it out. The rest is evident in long ridiculous posts filled with elaborate analogies trying to posit some sort of pseudo business expertise to build up and fortify excuses, like the one you just wrote.

Wtf is this incredible act of thinking? So you have no points and don’t want to listen to them? You are just here to insult people who have facts?

**** out here with this nonsense troll. Look ****a this place is for people who know and love boxing. If you do not know your **** then be smart enough to stop engaging those that do and just learn.

But coming here with emotional comments and petty insults because you are a frustrated man fan is not respected.

I am team Crawford, I am team let’s see it but dumb **** we have to be team got damn reality.

You are free to troll bro. Stop waisting peoples time acting like you are here for good reason.

[Combat Talk Radio]

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The "wrong belt" argument doesn't hold up when Spence specifically said Jeff Horn's belt.

No, he said get A, belt. Then he said "let's see if he gets past Jeff Horn". After which Crawford demanded 50-50, and Spence shot that down.

Rewriting history? No. You're opinion is Khan beats Postol and that's fair enough. I believe that any version of Khan is liable to get knocked out by anyone at world class and I'm quite sure that history shows us that.

Bold is the key. Postol is not this, never has been. 'Eye test' at its finest.

Horn took a one sided beating from Crawford. I don't see how you sell a rematch, even if you feel it was a bit of a UK stoppage. And how are you so certain that Crawford faked an injury? Genuinely curious.

Because the day after the announcement, someone (might have been Sechbach) shared a photo of Crawford, who was holding up his phone showing his picture of the Top Rank girls. Same hand that was allegedly hurt, no wraps, no bandage, nothing. People on here were talking about it before the fight, were you not here then??

That's why Rushton and Horn came out repeatedly asking for proof from the doctor - which Crawford refused to provide.

I don't knock Crawford's hustle; do what you have to do to get an advantage - fact is he faked a hand injury.

Does the PBC model allow for Porter to make an offer? Again, genuinely curious.

Any PBC fighter can make an offer on fights that Haymon approves to be on the broadcast.

Haymon has already told multiple PBC fighters he's okay with them fighting Crawford: Porter, Gary Russell Jr., Keef, Swift, even Spence. The ONLY reason a fight hasn't happened is Crawford's/BoMac's money demands being unreasonable. It's not even Arum at this point although his lowballing isn't helping matters.

Crawford could buy out the remainder of the Top Rank contract, sign with PBC (or not), lower his money demands and get any one of those signed immediately. That's what Manny did, but he had to go through Broner to get a top name, same as Mikey. Now both guys can basically ask for what they want.

Crawford would almost certainly have to fight Keef, Shawn, Ugas or Danny as a condition for a Spence fight. As he should. Likely Shawn as mandatory.

[peplz]

[QUOTE=Fire4231;20989851]

Wtf is this incredible act of thinking? So you have no points and don’t want to listen to them? You are just here to insult people who have facts?

**** out here with this nonsense troll. Look ****a this place is for people who know and love boxing. If you do not know your **** then be smart enough to stop engaging those that do and just learn.

But coming here with emotional comments and petty insults because you are a frustrated man fan is not respected.

I am team Crawford, I am team let’s see it but dumb **** we have to be team got damn reality.

You are free to troll bro. Stop waisting peoples time acting like you are here for good reason.

I think you need a tissue along with a reality check! Errol Spence is not a PPV draw. He is on his way but Terence Crawford is in his way. Deal with it.

[Cobra Curry]

No, he said get A, belt. Then he said "let's see if he gets past Jeff Horn". After which Crawford demanded 50-50, and Spence shot that down.



Bold is the key. Postol is not this, never has been. 'Eye test' at its finest.



Because the day after the announcement, someone (might have been Sechbach) shared a photo of Crawford, who was holding up his phone showing his picture of the Top Rank girls. Same hand that was allegedly hurt, no wraps, no bandage, nothing. People on here were talking about it before the fight, were you not here then??

That's why Rushton and Horn came out repeatedly asking for proof from the doctor - which Crawford refused to provide.

I don't knock Crawford's hustle; do what you have to do to get an advantage - fact is he faked a hand injury.



Any PBC fighter can make an offer on fights that Haymon approves to be on the broadcast.

Haymon has already told multiple PBC fighters he's okay with them fighting Crawford: Porter, Gary Russell Jr., Keef, Swift, even Spence. The ONLY reason a fight hasn't happened is Crawford's/BoMac's money demands being unreasonable. It's not even Arum at this point although his lowballing isn't helping matters.

Crawford could buy out the remainder of the Top Rank contract, sign with PBC (or not), lower his money demands and get any one of those signed immediately. That's what Manny did, but he had to go through Broner to get a top name, same as Mikey. Now both guys can basically ask for what they want.

Crawford would almost certainly have to fight Keef, Shawn, Ugas or Danny as a condition for a Spence fight. As he should. Likely Shawn as mandatory.

Dear friend, he did indeed say "hopefully he gets that belt from Jeff Horn and then we can talk." On camera and in front of people.

Postol is still competitive at world level to this day. Ask Jose Ramirez.

No, I didn't catch the incident with the phone and I can appreciate how that looks. I still don't see how you realistically sell that rematch though. The fight just wasn't competitive.

With Crawford's Top Rank situation being public knowledge, it would be simpler to just say "we're waiting til October before we talk to Crawford" or force the issue and make him fight or vacate.

[Fire4231]

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I think you need a tissue along with a reality check! Errol Spence is not a PPV draw. He is on his way but Terence Crawford is in his way. Deal with it.

Lol... The reality check is you are the ****ing tissue ***** face. Keep licking Terrence clean. You can type to your fingers bleed but there is no good work at Top Rank.

[techliam]

I give pac a chance. Don't think Spence is what people hype him to be.

The Porter fight is solid evidence of this. Even the Garcia fight, Spence wasn’t spectacular

The way Manny handled Thurman, it’s not farfetched to see him do similar to Spence. In fact, Thurman has a worse style for Manny, he can move and counter much better than Spence can

Today’s welterweights are levels below the welterweights of the 00s till around 2015

[Rick Taylor]

That's right, freeze Crawford out. We wanna see the best fight the best and Crawford refuses to prove he's top 5.

crawford is so obviously gay

[peplz]

[QUOTE=Fire4231;20990540]

Lol... The reality check is you are the ****ing tissue ***** face. Keep licking Terrence clean. You can type to your fingers bleed but there is no good work at Top Rank.

Got damn you’re a disgusting piece of work aren’t you?! H0m0$exuality is an obsession of fake boxing fans.