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  • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
    Wallin is young and had never been stopped.Might never be stopped.Pulev however is old and stopped quicker years ago by a guy Fury then beat easily.
    You know there is a difference between if Wallin hits you as opposed to a Wlad Klitschko at least I hope you do . So stating Wallin has never been stopped don’t actually mean much . Wallin hasn’t fought anyone near the power of a Klitschko left hook .

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    • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
      You know there is a difference between if Wallin hits you as opposed to a Wlad Klitschko at least I hope you do . So stating Wallin has never been stopped don’t actually mean much . Wallin hasn’t fought anyone near the power of a Klitschko left hook .
      Wlad Klitschko didn't stop Jennnings mate.He had a great left hook,but didn't always go in for the kill,which was why the public didn't take to him.Wallin was young and we have no idea how good he is.By contrast Pulev is old and faded.AJs strength is hes power ,and he took 9 rounds with Pulev.Look how weak it is that some of these guys actually wanted Fury stopped on a cut when he could and did go on to win,so do they hate him personally.Whos on the run of good form,AJ or Fury? Be honest .

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      • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
        But my point is we dont know how durable he is yet do we? Also,nothing wrong with a points win,especially against someone young who's never been stopped.Had it been Pulev,it would be worth some criticism Another thing.You want someone stopped on a cut when they could and did ,clearly continue to box and win? That sounds alot like hating.
        But you think something Is round when AJ out pointed a guy with a very fast hand in SA. If the other guy wasn't fury, we all know wallin should have won that fight. Let's not pretend here.

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        • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
          Wlad Klitschko didn't stop Jennnings mate.He had a great left hook,but didn't always go in for the kill,which was why the public didn't take to him.Wallin was young and we have no idea how good he is.By contrast Pulev is old and faded.AJs strength is hes power ,and he took 9 rounds with Pulev.Look how weak it is that some of these guys actually wanted Fury stopped on a cut when he could and did go on to win,so do they hate him personally.Whos on the run of good form,AJ or Fury? Be honest .
          Joshua won 9 rounds out of 9 with Pulev, knocked him down four times. That’s not a bad result against someone who has only been stopped by Klitschko. Stop hating because you want fury to beat him, it doesn’t mean his achievements are any less.

          As for form - honestly my opinion is Joshua is in better form.

          Why?

          Joshua has consistently taken on top10 opponents for the last few years and had one blip - even that fight he was winning/knocked down Ruiz and had he not been caught trying to finish him this would be a different conversation.

          By contrast since fury’s comeback he has looked poor against some pretty sub standard opposition including nearly being stopped by a cut to a complete nobody. He drew the initial fight with wilder and won the last one in good fashion. So basically he has one good performance of form and that was a long time ago now (he’ll have been a year out the ring at least by his next fight).

          Certainly going bingo this fight Joshua has more experience at the top end and has fought more recently so has an advantage there in my eyes

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          • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
            Wlad Klitschko didn't stop Jennnings mate.He had a great left hook,but didn't always go in for the kill,which was why the public didn't take to him.Wallin was young and we have no idea how good he is.By contrast Pulev is old and faded.AJs strength is hes power ,and he took 9 rounds with Pulev.Look how weak it is that some of these guys actually wanted Fury stopped on a cut when he could and did go on to win,so do they hate him personally.Whos on the run of good form,AJ or Fury? Be honest .
            Who said anything about Jennings , you were comparing Pulev to Wallin as if Wallin wasn’t stopped but Pulev was ?

            Wallin hasn’t fought a blunt power puncher yet so I don’t even know what you are comparing .

            Why are you ignoring the fight by rules should have been stopped in round 4 with Pulev ?

            AJ doesn’t struggle in fights like Fury ,and against better opponents. His sole loss is really the on,y one he’s clearly getting beat and he came back and won every round .

            AJ will defeat Fury .
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 01-06-2021, 05:51 AM.

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            • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
              Who said anything about Jennings , you were comparing Pulev to Wallin as if Wallin wasn’t stopped but Pulev was ?

              Wallin hasn’t fought a blunt power puncher yet so I don’t even know what you are comparing .

              Why are you ignoring the fight by rules should have been stopped in round 4 with Pulev ?

              AJ doesn’t struggle in fights like Fury ,and against better opponents. His sole loss is really the on,y one he’s clearly getting beat and he came back and won every round .

              AJ will defeat Fury .
              It was in reply to the mention of Wlad and hes left hook in stopping Pulev.Yes ,Wlad had good power,but he didn't stop everyone, even people he should have.Eddie Chambers nearly went 12 ,so dont tell me that because its Wlad ,Pulev being previously stopped doesnt count.Wallin is young,and we dont know how durable or hard to stop he is yet.Pulev is old,and already been stopped quicker than AJ managed it.AJ could've done it quicker,but he lost confidence in hes chin,being stopped by Ruiz,who wasn't a noted puncher.AJ doesnt struggle in fights? He nearly got took out against Wlad ,who Fury outboard with ease.Aint you been watching. He laboured with Parker,with Whyte .He won the rematch with Ruiz by using hes reach ,without once having the confidence to stand and fight,a total change of style.He gets outboxed and stopped by Fury ,easily.

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              • Originally posted by REDEEMER View Post
                You know there is a difference between if Wallin hits you as opposed to a Wlad Klitschko at least I hope you do . So stating Wallin has never been stopped don’t actually mean much . Wallin hasn’t fought anyone near the power of a Klitschko left hook .
                Who was comparing the power of Wlad and Wallin.Read what I wrote properly. We know that Pulev is over the hill,and stopped quicker years ago.We dont know how good Wallin is.A better comparison is this.AJ got bounced off the Canvas and stopped by non puncher Ruiz.He came back,changed hes style ,didn't sit down once because hed lost confidence in hes chin.Against a man he had a huge reach advantage over.Fury drew with a noted puncher.Got up from a hard knockdown,didn't get stopped.Came back in a rematch with no fear of hes power ,bounced him off the canvas and stoppedhim.Whos the man in form?

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                • Originally posted by Laligalaliga View Post
                  But you think something Is round when AJ out pointed a guy with a very fast hand in SA. If the other guy wasn't fury, we all know wallin should have won that fight. Let's not pretend here.
                  Imagine wanting a fight to be stopped on a cut when a guy could and did,clearly fight through it and win it,and went on to have hes biggest win in the next fight? What sort of boxing fan wants a fight stopped on a cut.Something wrong that AJ got stopped by Ruiz yes.And he looked scared to take a single punch in the rematch and had to change styles completely. Yeah,lack of confidence and two poor performances.

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                  • Originally posted by Kezzer View Post
                    Joshua won 9 rounds out of 9 with Pulev, knocked him down four times. That’s not a bad result against someone who has only been stopped by Klitschko. Stop hating because you want fury to beat him, it doesn’t mean his achievements are any less.

                    As for form - honestly my opinion is Joshua is in better form.

                    Why?

                    Joshua has consistently taken on top10 opponents for the last few years and had one blip - even that fight he was winning/knocked down Ruiz and had he not been caught trying to finish him this would be a different conversation.

                    By contrast since fury’s comeback he has looked poor against some pretty sub standard opposition including nearly being stopped by a cut to a complete nobody. He drew the initial fight with wilder and won the last one in good fashion. So basically he has one good performance of form and that was a long time ago now (he’ll have been a year out the ring at least by his next fight).

                    Certainly going bingo this fight Joshua has more experience at the top end and has fought more recently so has an advantage there in my eyes
                    Joshua gets stopped by Ruiz,changes hes style in a rematch and never sets himself once,and beats a 40 year old Pulev in 9.Thats better than Fury out boxing the biggest puncher in the division, rallying back from a devastating knockdown, fights through a terrible cut to beat a young unbeaten guy,and then devastates the biggest puncher in the division, showing no fear of hes power.And AJs on the better run? Fury beat AJs best opponent without getting hit ,AJ nearly got stopped in that one.Fury got Wilder twice.AJs got Parker and Whyte ,and got battered by Ruiz.Come on.

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                    • Originally posted by Mindgames View Post
                      Joshua gets stopped by Ruiz,changes hes style in a rematch and never sets himself once,and beats a 40 year old Pulev in 9.Thats better than Fury out boxing the biggest puncher in the division, rallying back from a devastating knockdown, fights through a terrible cut to beat a young unbeaten guy,and then devastates the biggest puncher in the division, showing no fear of hes power.And AJs on the better run? Fury beat AJs best opponent without getting hit ,AJ nearly got stopped in that one.Fury got Wilder twice.AJs got Parker and Whyte ,and got battered by Ruiz.Come on.

                      Clearly you have a view that you prefer fury and and want to make it look better, to the extent your claiming the Wallin win was better purely because he was young and unbeaten.

                      I’m very much of the view that fury should be applauded for his (second) wilder fight & to an extent the Klitschko win; however I certainly don’t think that was dominant and infact despite views changing overtime had Klitschko won narrowly it wouldn’t have caused too much emotion for long.

                      That said, based on form only - Fury just beat wilder in good fashion but prior to that he fought Schwarz and wallin - not fights I can really go away saying he is in form from , particularly the Wallin fight.

                      So I wouldn’t say he’s necessarily in form, but rather win his last fight well and that was a year ago now.

                      Whether fury takes on AJ or not - he needs to take on consistently high level opponents rather than revert back to these nobodies if he really wants to be considered the best in my opinion

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