Why hasn't anyone complained about this?

[Motorcity Cobra]

I've waited for someone to make a topic complaining like they did hundreds of times when PBC did it to Crawford.

They left Billy Joe and the WBO belt off the list the same way they leave Bud and the WBO off the list. But it's crickets because people don't really care about Fox/PBC not recognizing the WBO. They're just Spence haters.

[TernceBudCharlo]

You mean Billy hoe Saunders?

[ShoulderRoll]

I think we're all just used to the PBC and WBO bullsh1t by now.

No need to mention it for every broadcast.

[TernceBudCharlo]

PBC had so much potential though, it would be great if they didn't recognize any belts. Just 1 champion per division. Cut the catch weight bull****, cut the stipulation bull****, and make it mandatory to fight the #1 contender or you get stripped. If I was Al Haymon this is exactly what I'd do

[Bain01D]

PBC had so much potential though, it would be great if they didn't recognize any belts. Just 1 champion per division. Cut the catch weight bull****, cut the stipulation bull****, and make it mandatory to fight the #1 contender or you get stripped. If I was Al Haymon this is exactly what I'd do

One area Boxing could learn from MMA and the ufc

[Mammoth]

I mentioned something last night

[TernceBudCharlo]

One area Boxing could learn from MMA and the ufc

Yes! I always say this. They do things right over there. If you have the nerve to call yourself the champ then you have to fight the number one contender. And the number one contender wouldn't be bull**** fights like Kamal that GGG fought. It would be Devin Haney for Teo. Teo has to fight Haney NOW or he gets stripped. EJ, or Bud, depending on who you consider the champion to be, would have to fight each other next or you strip them.

[Marchegiano]

To be fair, I doubt I'm the only fan who doesn't give a piss about the WBO.

I don't give a **** about the Larry belt either.

The computer/boxrec belt is easily the worst, glad they're not yet pushing it as a major despite Joshua's efforts.


The WBC is the real org and the WBA is their real rival. The IBF and WBO are just splinters of the WBA riding the coattails of boxing to "legitimize" themselves but the truth is you're either Coke or your Pepsi, ain't no one got time for RC bull****. You're either Disney or Dreamworks or **** you. WBO and IBF ain't ****, idgaf who says they are.


Dig this, Jack Johnson is the first HW champion to receive a belt not made by fans or a newspaper or promoter but rather a body that's sole purpose was to keep **** fair because fans, newspapers, and promoters suck at that. His belt today is represented by the WBC. As in had he won it in 2020 the IBU(who gave him the belt) is now the EBU and the EBU recognizes the WBC as their world entity. Not no ****ing WBO/IBF bull****.

Jack Dempsey is the first WBA champion back when they were the NBA. Since then they changed their name and had two different orgs splinter from them but Jack Dempsey's belt is represented by the modern WBA.

At least the IBF has Larry, but, from Dempsey forward the WBA champions are too great for Larry and the rest of the IBF. Double for the WBC who not only reps Jack Johnson on forward but also Sam Langford, George Godfrey, and Peter Jackson under the NSC/IBU banners. Way too great to give a **** about ****ing Wlad to now or Larry to now.

So, I give a **** about the WBC and WBA. Those are the belts that represent the great champions in history. Rocky Marciano knows nothing about no ****ing IBF or WBO belt.

[TernceBudCharlo]

I heard Al had plans to actually not recognize any of the belts and just have 1 PBC belt. This is what he needs to do if boxing is to have any respect. But then enforce the mandatories and strip people.

[Bain01D]

Yes! I always say this. They do things right over there. If you have the nerve to call yourself the champ then you have to fight the number one contender. And the number one contender wouldn't be bull**** fights like Kamal that GGG fought. It would be Devin Haney for Teo. Teo has to fight Haney NOW or he gets stripped. EJ, or Bud, depending on who you consider the champion to be, would have to fight each other next or you strip them.

You even see scenarios where someone who is very highly regarded in another organisation need to cross over to be legitimate.

Good example is Ben Askren, there was a massive clamour for him to sign with the UFC and even the politics of his feud with Dayna didn’t get in the way

He then gets exposed when against the top level competition