Why hasnt kickboxing taken off

[Marchegiano]

I liked k-1 quite a bit.

Remmy was my dude.

[b Murphington]

I’ll agree with most on here. MMA really loses me with the ground game.

I know it’s hard to do and I’m sure it’s effective in fights, but the sh#t just does not look appealing to me. It really does look gay as fu#k and not exactly fun to watch.

Not only that, but when I watch it, I have no idea what’s going on. Setting up your clinches. What arm bars and triangle holds look like, how to defend it. How to position your hips. I’m absolutely lost at that point and I lose interest quick. I just don’t care for it at all and I don’t want to learn anything about it.

[MartialMind]

I’ll agree with most on here. MMA really loses me with the ground game.

I know it’s hard to do and I’m sure it’s effective in fights, but the sh#t just does not look appealing to me. It really does look gay as fu#k and not exactly fun to watch.

Not only that, but when I watch it, I have no idea what’s going on. Setting up your clinches. What arm bars and triangle holds look like, how to defend it. How to position your hips. I’m absolutely lost at that point and I lose interest quick. I just don’t care for it at all and I don’t want to learn anything about it.

Jiu-jitsu really is an integral part of being a well rounded fighter. This was discovered in literally the first UFC when a 170 lbs BJJ blackbelt was beating 250 lbs men.

Striking in the UFC has gotten much better since then but grappling is as important a component in Martial Arts as striking is.

MMA by its namesake of course is a mixture of different combat and martial arts styles.

Boxing of course focuses on one. Kick-boxing is too master of none, as someone else touched upon, it just looks silly when a guy falls over with a widely missed kick and the opponent is just supposed to wait till the guy is helped back up by the ref.

[edgarg]

Kicking boxing is a little too brutal. And I personally don't like mma much because a little to ho.mo for me. I don't want to see guys mounting each other for 30mins.

You should read up on the original "The Great Gama" and his first fight with world Champion Stanislaus Zbyzsko which lasted about 2 1/2 hours during which they hardly changed position. He was a most wonderful free-style wrestler and was never defeated, retiring at age about 70. I read about him when I was a kid, in The Police Gazette, many years ago, his whole family for generations were champion wrestlers, so it was like a religion to them, and I see that he's well written up on Wiki. His daily training schedule is something that NO martial arts guy in the whole world today could ever even do a tenth of, and his diet was enough for about 20 men daily. His first fight at about age 15 was against the Indian Champion who was about 7 ft. tall. Gama was 5'7"...Their fight, which lasted hours, finally was judged to be a draw.

These were the days when wrestling was legitimate and not phony like it has been for the past 50 or more years.

I'm talking about guys like George Hackenschmidt, Joe Stecher, Frank Gotch, Ed "Strangler" Lewis, Zbyzsko, etc. They were all afraid to fight the Great Gama. In Gama's second fight with Zbyzsko, some years later, he ran out of the ring after about 2 minutes.

[edgarg]

Since the explosion of mma as pretty much the modern combat sport. The most action pact and fights fans like to see is between 2 dominate strikers. So since such and its the middleground between mma and boxing. Why hasnt kickboxing caught on like mma or even the new bare knuckle fighting. We like seeing to strikers bringing the action whether its mma or boxing so whats the cache

Maybe it's because seeing people kick one another seems inherently cowardly and underhanded. I know that's how I feel about it. Of course I boxed purely because it was sporting and manly. I played several other sports too..

[Armchairhero]

It’s not very exciting to watch, anyone who is any good will move onto MMA or boxing anyway, so the talent pool is too small.

[RJJ-94-02=GOAT]

Since the explosion of mma as pretty much the modern combat sport. The most action pact and fights fans like to see is between 2 dominate strikers. So since such and its the middleground between mma and boxing. Why hasnt kickboxing caught on like mma or even the new bare knuckle fighting. We like seeing to strikers bringing the action whether its mma or boxing so whats the cache

Good point tbh man. I don’t think it has any financial backing at a professional level, all the best amateur kickboxers end up transitioning to Boxing or MMA.

The amateur scene is generally popular in Liverpool where I’m from but the best kickboxers always transition into something else. For example Bellew was a kickboxer but chose boxing, Till was a kickboxer but chose MMA.