The Perfect Fighter

[Boxing-1013]

I would say Oliver McCall is the GOAT chin for me

[Boxing-1013]

Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.

And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.

Say what you want about GGG, but if you can find 5 guys with a better jab than him, you are either lying or some type of boxing rainman who has seen and remembered fighters that no one else knows exist.

Holmes, Lennox, GGG. I can't think of anyone else in that class really.

[Boxing-1013]

Are you talking about the Canelo fight? Please tell me you aren't????

He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?

[boogbx]

Any mention of triple G removes perfect fighter.

Tua >Oliver McCall > James Toney > Chuck Wepner > Triple G

[MartialMind]

Ali didn't really have nice abs doe.


Or we talking about being able to eat up body shots? He did take monstrous body punches from Foreman, Fraizer, and Shavers and didn't budge.

When he was in fighting shape in the 60s he had great glistening abs.

[KingHippo]

He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?

This has absolutely nothing to do with my original point which was Buster Douglas and Klitschko having knock down power with the jab. And I never said GGG doesn't have a good jab, just not in the top 2 of history. That's pretty reasonable, right?

You people need to stop being such b1tches, seriously. It's getting sad and I really don't get why you are so emotionally and personally involved in this guy.

[blowblow]

I’ve gone for heavyweights (recent or active) - can’t repeat the name twice!

Physique: AJ
Hand Speed: Ruiz
Speed: fury
Power: Wilder
Jab: Klitschko
Left Hand: Povetkin
Defense: parker
Conditioning: ortiz
Heart: Bellew
Chin: Joyce
Head Size: wtf is this?? Lol
Abs: Takam
Ring IQ: Usyk
Intensity: Miller
Charisma: chisora
Swagger: whyte

there are two heads. the top head or the head down below? which one?

[Willy Wanker]

Tell me why this fighter isn't the perfect fighter. Got the attributes of the best ever.


Physique: Lennox Lewis
Hand Speed: Ali
Speed: Roy Jones Jr.
Power: Foreman
Jab: Holmes or GGG
Left Hand: Frazier
Defense: Mayweather
Conditioning: Marciano
Heart: Holyfield
Chin: GGG
Head Size: Hagler
Abs: Ali
Ring IQ: Hopkins
Intensity: Pacquiao
Charisma: Ali
Swagger: Tyson

Physique: Andy Ruiz
Hand Speed: Carlos Baldomir
Speed: Nikolai Valuev
Power: Paulie Malignaggi
Defense: Arturo Gatti
Conditioning: Jermaine Taylor
Heart: Victor Ortiz
Chin: Amir Khan
Head size: Chocolatito
Abs: James Toney
Ring IQ: Alfredo Angulo
Intensity: Danny Garcia
Charisma: Guillermo Rigondeaux
Swagger: Jeff Horn

[Boxing-1013]

Are you talking about the Canelo fight? Please tell me you aren't????

He landed it on Canelo like 230 times in 2 fights, 24 rounds. I'm not a math whiz, but that's like 10 per round. If Canelo is that great, I would say GGG's jab is pretty good, no?

Not almost, I quite vividly remember him dropping Povetkin with a jab. Buster Douglas dropped a guy twice with the jab. So many great jabs. Having GGG as the number one or two jab in history is exactly what I would expect a GGG fan to do.

And for the record, I respect GGG. His fans is who I hate.

This has absolutely nothing to do with my original point which was Buster Douglas and Klitschko having knock down power with the jab. And I never said GGG doesn't have a good jab, just not in the top 2 of history. That's pretty reasonable, right?

You people need to stop being such b1tches, seriously. It's getting sad and I really don't get why you are so emotionally and personally involved in this guy.

I'll let people read those posts for themselves, and decide who is getting emotional about everything.

You seemed upset that a guy said that GGG was using his jab well vs Canelo. I pointed out, that statistically, he used his jab often vs Canelo, and any reasonable person would say he used it very well.

You seemed upset that some people feel GGG has an ATG jab.

I pointed out that GGG really beat Canelo twice behind his jab, and that many, yourself included, revere Canelo and currently rank his number 1 pfp.

Effectively using your jab against the number 1 pfp fighter in the world, twice, and in many people's eyes, beating him twice behind that jab.

I can't think of any other fighter in history who has two such performances against a top pfp fighter, largely with the jab.

Buster, Wlad, Holmes, Lennox all have great jabs. I don't think any of them even have 2 such performances.

[Boxing-1013]

Canelo fans have 0 sense.

They hate on GGG's jab, to hate on any and everything GGG. Not realizing that GGG in many people's eyes beat Canelo, largely behind the jab, twice.

Yet they swear Canelo is this special fighter and number 1 pfp. If they had any sense they would spin a better fairytale - if they really want to keep up with the fan fiction that Canelo won those fights, they should say that Canelo is so great that he was able to overcome the great stuff/jab that GGG brought to the table. That only a special fighter like Canelo could find a way to win in that scenario etc.

Just shows that fan really is short for fanatic. No sense for most fans.