Comments Thread For: Shawn Porter: If Terence Crawford Is Willing To Say Yes, The Fight Will Happen

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  • Oregonian
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    #81
    Originally posted by peplz
    I’ll give you Khan. Especially because of the way that fight ended. And Benevidez did have a bad knee. But he is far from a bum. Kell Brook was not coming off of a loss and a near career ending injury when Crawford fought him. Its not at all a coincidence that Brook got the same injury on the opposite side when he fought Spence. And Brook was not coming down from middle weight when he fought Crawford. Spence fought a compromised version of Brook. Crawford fought an older version of Brook but a healthier version who was coming off of three consecutive wins and not fresh off of a debilitating loss as he did with Spence. Kauvalaskis was undefeated when he fought Crawford. And Crawford is the same guy who ran the table at 140 and dominated at 135. As much as some of y’all want to subtract his previous divisional accomplishments from the discussion you really can’t do that in a fair debate. Everything he has accomplished counts.
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    Nobody is trying to undermine Crawford’s accomplishments at 140. In fact, I’ve been very clear to measure only his WW run. He unified 140 and kudos to him.
    that’s not the case with 147.

    Crawford keeps saying that he’s done everything at WW and that he doesn’t need Spence to solidify his status at WW. That’s BS and even you can acknowledge that.

    If Spence retires without fighting Spence or even Porter, I doubt he gets into the HOF. More important, no sane boxing fan will respect the guy.

    I say the same thing about Spence, but at least Spence fought Porter and DSG and both rank higher than any guy Crawford has fought at WW.

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    • Gary Coleman
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      #82
      Originally posted by peplz
      Okay I’m not about waste my breath on somebody that fabricates facts. Terence Crawford earned his position and doesn’t have anything to make excuses about. The excuses are coming all from Errol Spence and company.
      Bruh, he hasn't fought anyone noteworthy.

      Name his best win.

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        #83
        Originally posted by whollisboxing
        Here are my two cents about the names you just gave:

        1. Amir Khan: I wouldn't say he's completely shot but he's definitely past his prime. He is a name who's talent is probably top-25 in the division. It's a decent win in that Bud handled him easily but not overly impressive

        2. Kell Brook: Similar to Khan but Brook is probably top-20 at this point at 147. This was another decent win because I do believe that Brook was locked and loaded that night. Bud handled him like he handled Khan so another decent win.

        3. Kavaliuskas was a top-10 win (top-15 at worst) whether people can pronounce his name or not. I look at this as a "best of the rest" sort of win.

        4. Benavidez was a top-15 sort of win in my eyes. I know about the issues with his leg but Bud handled him as expected.

        In summary, Bud has decent but not overly impressive wins at welterweight. He's handling a certain level of opposition and we need to see him in with top-5 level opponents.

        I would love to see Crawford face Yordenis Ugas because Ugas wouldn't care about being the B-side and I'm sure he would gladly fight on ESPN if the opportunity presented itself.
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        Khan was not a decent opponent let alone win. We all knew he was going to destroy Khan. And you acknowledge Khan is not even a top 20 WW so why fight him? Surely there were better guys out there.

        Brook is not a top 10 WW (your own words again) so why fight him.

        Benavidez was not a top 10 WW (your words again) and was injured so why fight him?

        Kavaliuskas was probably # 8 in ranking and the only thing going for him was his “undefeated” moniker.

        So, we have guys that are better in skills and name (Porter, Thurman, DSG, Spence etc), why not force Arum to negotiate a fight with them especially because he is considered the # 1 P4P boxer on the planet?

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          #84
          At least Porter wants to fight Crawford and shows he's eager. It doesn't seem that Spence, as good as he is, is that keen. It's a good fight, Crawford would be a bit too skilled for Porter, but it's competitive.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Liondw
            At least Porter wants to fight Crawford and shows he's eager. It doesn't seem that Spence, as good as he is, is that keen. It's a good fight, Crawford would be a bit too skilled for Porter, but it's competitive.
            Can u blame Porter? He already loss to Spence,Thurman and Brook.

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              #86
              Originally posted by peplz
              If they were trying to deal in common sense and not PR strategy they would have sent that offer in a written term sheet instead of firing media shots. And if Errol Spence was so much of a bigger draw he wouldn’t have to plead his case in the media because what’s understood does not need to be overstated. Negotiating through the media is the most tried and true way to keep a fight from happening. This has always been the case and indeed it did not start with Errol Spence.
              Beautifully Said

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              • Drew Bundini Br
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                #87
                Originally posted by TexasCowBoy
                Beautifully Said
                Spence vs Pac May 2021.

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                  #88
                  I said this before but I think Porter might beat Crawford.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by revelated


                    Thats old news and I've seen all that. Now its a bit different and Porter is or will be the mandatory. I still think its easy work for Bud. Porter has no power really and Bud outboxes him easily. I think he stops him in 9

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                    • TexasCowBoy
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
                      Spence vs Pac May 2021.
                      This right here is a cop out by the hamonites/ wilderettes.....if Crawford (hasn't accomplished much in Boxing according to the hamonites) was easy work then Spence is the new species of duck discovered out in the Great State of Texas.....the funny thing is that its a black faction (the hamonites/wilderettes)hating on Terrance " Bud " Crawford ....its a shame when a Texas Man has to stand up for Bud because of the hate the hamonites have against their fellow man....As a Texas Man we here in The Great State of Texas recognize Crawford as The Man at 47....and there is many more like me

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