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  • factsarenice
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    #21
    Devin Haney is a MUST aviod style for Teofimo.

    Teo's money train will stop dead in it's tracks and his team is smart ...they wont allow it. They will go on to give every reason why Devin Haney should never happen.

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    • Mammoth
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      #22
      Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
      He is also only 16 fights into his career. His win vs Commey secured his shot at Loma. Haney in he other hand is 25 fights into his career and his best opposition is now 39 yo Gamboa. You don’t get mandatory positions 25 fights into your career fighting the level of opposition Haney has.
      Why did the WBC order the Haney vs Abdullaev fight then, dummy?

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        #23
        Originally posted by Mammoth
        Why did the WBC order the Haney vs Abdullaev fight then, dummy?
        I believe I covered this very clearly up above....if no one that I can recall gets a shot at a vacant title with an opposition record of 185-155 then it’s very obvious....the WBC wanted him to have that belt. His opponent Abdullaev certainly didn’t deserve to be in that position either. Abdullaev’s opponent in the lead up to secure a shot at the vacant title was 8 loss Humberto Martinez and for Haney it was 3 loss Antonio Moran.

        Give me a freaking break.

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        • factsarenice
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          #24
          Devin Haney it a stylistic nightmare for Teofimo and that is why Teo's team ONLY talk about why the fight CAN'T happen. Code for "it's too much of a risk."

          Originally posted by RoadMan94
          Right....

          So Loma Ducked Haney, in order to fight a brilliant Teofimo Lopez..... yes?

          Who at that time, brought MUCH MORE to the table than HANEY at that time?

          Teofimo Lopez was an undefeated IBF Lightweight champion, coming of a SENSATIONAL KO of a worthy champ in commey.

          Haney meanwhile had come out with boring performances, had no world title and was a mandatory challenger.

          I don’t see how it’s possible to say Loma “ducked” Haney.

          I think it’s very ****** to say that Lopez is “Ducking” Haney.

          The fight will happen, but when Lopez decides. Whether fans like it or not, he is the A-Side.
          Until Haney realises and accepts that, he can keep trying to sell his snoozefest email title defences to people that wanna see it.
          If you look at both objectively it's obvious that Devin Haney is a bad, bad match-up.... and Teo's team is smart enough to know it.

          For the record, no Loma was never going to fight Devin Haney and neither will Lopez because their teams don't think they can beat Haney. The money is there, the will is not.
          Last edited by factsarenice; 12-24-2020, 10:49 AM.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
            I believe I covered this very clearly up above....if no one that I can recall gets a shot at a vacant title with an opposition record of 185-155 then it’s very obvious....the WBC wanted him to have that belt. His opponent Abdullaev certainly didn’t deserve to be in that position either. Abdullaev’s opponent in the lead up to secure a shot at the vacant title was 8 loss Humberto Martinez and for Haney it was 3 loss Antonio Moran.

            Give me a freaking break.
            The WBC obviously wanted Haney to have that belt? So they did what? Allow a unified champion to fight for it while it was vacant when Loma petitioned for that? Then allowed Loma to become franchise champion when Loma petitioned for that as well? Cut the shit. It wasn't Haney the WBC bent over backwards for.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              The WBC obviously wanted Haney to have that belt? So they did what? Allow a unified champion to fight for it while it was vacant when Loma petitioned for that? Then allowed Loma to become franchise champion when Loma petitioned for that as well? Cut the shit. It wasn't Haney the WBC bent over backwards for.
              Hey, I’m not a WBC fan. I’m with you on that. Back in the 80’s/90’s the WBC belt was the best belt to have in all of boxing. They are now the joke of boxing with their franchise crap. It’s nothing more than $$ plain and simple. They know placing the belt into a promising fighter’s hands who hasn’t necessarily earned it will allow them to continue getting revenue. A vacant title isn’t making them $$

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                #27
                Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                Hey, I’m not a WBC fan. I’m with you on that. Back in the 80’s/90’s the WBC belt was the best belt to have in all of boxing. They are now the joke of boxing with their franchise crap. It’s nothing more than $$ plain and simple. They know placing the belt into a promising fighter’s hands who hasn’t necessarily earned it will allow them to continue getting revenue. A vacant title isn’t making them $$
                They shouldn't have allowed Lomachenko to not have to face his mandatory. Hell, they shouldn't have allowed Lomachenko to even fight for the vacant title. All of which is Loma and Bob's fault so the Haney is an email champion stuff in on Top Rank, not him.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by factsarenice
                  Devin Haney it a stylistic nightmare for Teofimo and that is why Teo's team ONLY talk about why the fight CAN'T happen. Code for "it's too much of a risk."



                  If you look at both objectively it's obvious that Devin Haney is a bad, bad match-up.... and Teo's team is smart enough to know it.

                  For the record, no Loma was never going to fight Devin Haney and neither will Lopez because their teams don't think they can beat Haney. The money is there, the will is not.
                  I hear what you are saying, but my thing is this, Lomachenko is a much better boxer than Devin Haney, much more difficult to figure out and keep up with.

                  Theirs no way Lopez and his team are avoiding him. They’re doing what all fighters do. They’re trying to milk all they can before making it. That’s just what happens. Just because Lopez doesn’t fight Haney next or when you want it to be, doesn’t mean they’re “ducking”.

                  It just annoys me a bit, when we have fighters who actually beat somebody who is basically a modern day Legend in boxing terms, and they get accused of been a duck or other insults.

                  Dude barely fought a few months ago, was a HUGE underdog against a master boxer with a wealth of experience, and dominated the majority of the fight. Let him enjoy his props.

                  He’s likely got a mando defence next. Maybe after that or when Haney beats a live body we will see it next.

                  Realistically, no TV Networks, promoters or even the two fighters themselves, are interested in making a fight without full capacity of fans in arenas. The fight has a whole lot of growing to do. Eddie Hearn needs to do a much better job with Haney, and get him that STANDOUT name for him to beat, if he does that then Haney has every right to call Lopez out for avoiding him. But not yet. Best way to break it down is this:

                  Devin Haney is a belt holder in the Lightweight division. (Fantastic Talent btw)
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                  Teofimo Lopez is THE Reigning UNIFIED Lightweight CHAMP of the World. He took out THE Biggest PLAYER in the Division.
                  (Basically Undisputed to majority of fight fans)


                  Theirs a gulf right now of where both guys are in their respective careers.

                  Haney is an exceptional talent. But he’s not proven it at the HIGHEST of levels. And he can’t just keep saying it’s because everybody ducks me. Theirs Many guys in LW right now.

                  He’s happy with the calibre of opponents he’s been getting. Anybody worth a grain of salt knew that The Gamboa fight was only a step up on paper. Dude was shot AF.

                  Eddie loves letting us all know about it if a fighter ain’t making same as the other guy or whose the A-Side, proving themselves etc.

                  Yet it seems that’s only the case when Eddie has the A-Side, when he doesn’t he just expects champs to give his guys the fights he wants. All because lord Hearn says so? lol. Not how it works.

                  Truth is, Haney has barked with no bite. Can only look upon himself/handlers at his career stagnating. He chose that DAZN/MATCHROOM money thinking he’s onto the yellow brick road. Boy ain’t beaten Nobody.

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                  • factsarenice
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                    #29
                    Everything you said may be true BUT! Winning fights is about stylistic match-ups and Teo doesn't hold a physical advantage over Haney. Simply put Devin Haney has all the tools and style to beat Teo every day, all day. Boring? maybe! That doesn't change the fact that Haney is a package that beats Teo. IMO, Devin is all wrong for Teofimo Lopez and they know it.

                    Originally posted by Boxingfanatic75
                    I believe I covered this very clearly up above....if no one that I can recall gets a shot at a vacant title with an opposition record of 185-155 then it’s very obvious....the WBC wanted him to have that belt. His opponent Abdullaev certainly didn’t deserve to be in that position either. Abdullaev’s opponent in the lead up to secure a shot at the vacant title was 8 loss Humberto Martinez and for Haney it was 3 loss Antonio Moran.

                    Give me a freaking break.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Mammoth
                      Lol wtf Kambosos sucks
                      So, should he throw away belts, if you don’t like the mandotary challengers? “On paper” he’s beaten two former world champs back to back in their own backyards. I think he’s earned his shot hasn’t he? He’s the IBF Mando.

                      So wether lopez fights him next or not he’s still Deserves the opportunity he risked his body and health for.

                      Swear to god, you was defending Joshua fighting Pulev the other week! But have the audacity to say Kambosos is terrible or whatever.

                      Not even a fan of George, but sick to death of people talking like they actually fight for a living. 😂 it’s corny and it makes the person doing it look “WEAK AF”

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