Comments Thread For: Teofimo Lopez on Devin Haney: He Needs To Develop - He Don't Have It!

[Boxingfanatic75]

I hear what you are saying, but my thing is this, Lomachenko is a much better boxer than Devin Haney, much more difficult to figure out and keep up with.

Theirs no way Lopez and his team are avoiding him. They’re doing what all fighters do. They’re trying to milk all they can before making it. That’s just what happens. Just because Lopez doesn’t fight Haney next or when you want it to be, doesn’t mean they’re “ducking”.

It just annoys me a bit, when we have fighters who actually beat somebody who is basically a modern day Legend in boxing terms, and they get accused of been a duck or other insults.

Dude barely fought a few months ago, was a HUGE underdog against a master boxer with a wealth of experience, and dominated the majority of the fight. Let him enjoy his props.

He’s likely got a mando defence next. Maybe after that or when Haney beats a live body we will see it next.

Realistically, no TV Networks, promoters or even the two fighters themselves, are interested in making a fight without full capacity of fans in arenas. The fight has a whole lot of growing to do. Eddie Hearn needs to do a much better job with Haney, and get him that STANDOUT name for him to beat, if he does that then Haney has every right to call Lopez out for avoiding him. But not yet. Best way to break it down is this:

Devin Haney is a belt holder in the Lightweight division. (Fantastic Talent btw)
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Teofimo Lopez is THE Reigning UNIFIED Lightweight CHAMP of the World. He took out THE Biggest PLAYER in the Division.
(Basically Undisputed to majority of fight fans)


Theirs a gulf right now of where both guys are in their respective careers.

Haney is an exceptional talent. But he’s not proven it at the HIGHEST of levels. And he can’t just keep saying it’s because everybody ducks me. Theirs Many guys in LW right now.

He’s happy with the calibre of opponents he’s been getting. Anybody worth a grain of salt knew that The Gamboa fight was only a step up on paper. Dude was shot AF.

Eddie loves letting us all know about it if a fighter ain’t making same as the other guy or whose the A-Side, proving themselves etc.

Yet it seems that’s only the case when Eddie has the A-Side, when he doesn’t he just expects champs to give his guys the fights he wants. All because lord Hearn says so? lol. Not how it works.

Truth is, Haney has barked with no bite. Can only look upon himself/handlers at his career stagnating. He chose that DAZN/MATCHROOM money thinking he’s onto the yellow brick road. Boy ain’t beaten Nobody.

Green K for excellent and well thought out post.

[RoadMan94]

Devin Haney it a stylistic nightmare for Teofimo and that is why Teo's team ONLY talk about why the fight CAN'T happen. Code for "it's too much of a risk."



If you look at both objectively it's obvious that Devin Haney is a bad, bad match-up.... and Teo's team is smart enough to know it.

For the record, no Loma was never going to fight Devin Haney and neither will Lopez because their teams don't think they can beat Haney. The money is there, the will is not.

And also, facts are nice I certainly agree with you.
How come you didn’t touch upon any of the points I made?

What did Haney bring to the table for loma at that point?

I’m not disrespecting Devin. Think he’s got great talent btw. I just know boxing is about timing.

[VashDBasher]

It’s true that Haney’s progression has slowed since he went to Matchroom. When he was fighting on Showtime, he was constantly fighting step-up opponents and looking impressive. Regardless, I’d still love to see him and Lopez fight for undisputed.

[RoadMan94]

Green K for excellent and well thought out post.

Appreciate that it’s come across well and not disrespectful. So thanks for that. I appreciate it.

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

How is this not ducking. Even if everyone agrees he has an email belt and hasn't fought anyone, he still has the only other belt at that weight. Loma ducked Haney, now Teo is doing the same.

I'm not a Haney fan and signing to Hearn was dumb of him but that doesn't change that this is ducking.

Loma dodges Haney to fight Lopez ? Wtf ...whack boxing logic at its finest!!

[RoadMan94]

Loma ducked Haney long before he fought Lopez. He petitioned to be the franchise champ to avoid fighting Haney in the four fighter WBC tournament. Im stating facts while you are on some fangirl A side bs. Is Haney boring yes, still more deserving than George Kam-whatever.

No that was a good fact you’ve brought up about Lomachenko actually. So I’m not on “fan-Girl” Nor did I get personal with you.

I stated what my opinion was.

But right now what about Lopez then? Are you saying he’s ducking haney? Because that’s who I’m mainly talking about, isn’t it? If you didn’t know that, you do now mate.

So what are you telling me, proves that Lopez is ducking Haney? I just don’t get it that’s all. He’s literally just fought, if you listen to Bob and Teofimo they’re likely going Australia next for Kambosos.

What is wrong with that fight? Against a credible unbeaten contender, who’s coming off back2back wins against Two Former world champs, in they’re own Back yards respectively. In may I add would be the 2nd defence of his IBF title and the 1st Defence as UNIFIED champ.


So, we will likely get Lopez Vs Haney, won’t we? But if I was haney, I’d maybe worry more about Luke Campbell vs Ryan Garcia. The winner of that fight will be Devins mando won’t they? Am I a wrong little fan girl about that too?................


Wrote in pink to match the “Fangirl” Persona aswell. ��

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Loma ducked Haney long before he fought Lopez. He petitioned to be the franchise champ to avoid fighting Haney in the four fighter WBC tournament. Im stating facts while you are on some fangirl A side bs. Is Haney boring yes, still more deserving than George Kam-whatever.

have not heard any boxing writer, commentator, analyst, former fighter, insider say Loma ducked ANYBODY!! Especially Haney - who embarrassingly went the distance with a way past it Gamboa! Add to it Haney has zero appeal, fanbase, and cant draw flies to a pile of crap!!

[factsarenice]

I hear what you are saying, but my thing is this, Lomachenko is a much better boxer than Devin Haney, much more difficult to figure out and keep up with.

Theirs no way Lopez and his team are avoiding him. They’re doing what all fighters do. They’re trying to milk all they can before making it. That’s just what happens. Just because Lopez doesn’t fight Haney next or when you want it to be, doesn’t mean they’re “ducking”.

It just annoys me a bit, when we have fighters who actually beat somebody who is basically a modern day Legend in boxing terms, and they get accused of been a duck or other insults.

Dude barely fought a few months ago, was a HUGE underdog against a master boxer with a wealth of experience, and dominated the majority of the fight. Let him enjoy his props.

He’s likely got a mando defence next. Maybe after that or when Haney beats a live body we will see it next.

Realistically, no TV Networks, promoters or even the two fighters themselves, are interested in making a fight without full capacity of fans in arenas. The fight has a whole lot of growing to do. Eddie Hearn needs to do a much better job with Haney, and get him that STANDOUT name for him to beat, if he does that then Haney has every right to call Lopez out for avoiding him. But not yet. Best way to break it down is this:

Devin Haney is a belt holder in the Lightweight division. (Fantastic Talent btw)
-
Teofimo Lopez is THE Reigning UNIFIED Lightweight CHAMP of the World. He took out THE Biggest PLAYER in the Division.
(Basically Undisputed to majority of fight fans)


Theirs a gulf right now of where both guys are in their respective careers.

Haney is an exceptional talent. But he’s not proven it at the HIGHEST of levels. And he can’t just keep saying it’s because everybody ducks me. Theirs Many guys in LW right now.

He’s happy with the calibre of opponents he’s been getting. Anybody worth a grain of salt knew that The Gamboa fight was only a step up on paper. Dude was shot AF.

Eddie loves letting us all know about it if a fighter ain’t making same as the other guy or whose the A-Side, proving themselves etc.

Yet it seems that’s only the case when Eddie has the A-Side, when he doesn’t he just expects champs to give his guys the fights he wants. All because lord Hearn says so? lol. Not how it works.

Truth is, Haney has barked with no bite. Can only look upon himself/handlers at his career stagnating. He chose that DAZN/MATCHROOM money thinking he’s onto the yellow brick road. Boy ain’t beaten Nobody.

I loved Lomachenko because he dared to be great and I defended Loma. But yes, I also believe Arum deliberately avoided Devin Haney.

[Oldskoolg]

Really enjoyed reading that. It’s strange matchroom boxing USA. Feel like his guys are stagnating. And besides from Jacobs getting Canelo, he hasn’t delivered big fights for ANY of them has he? If I’m wrong, I certainly need correcting.

Glad I aren’t the only one who sees this. Makes me know I’m not imagining it. And because Eddie is so desperate for it to work, he’s started to heavily neglect UK fighters.

I can’t name one fighter that Hearn has Built PROPERLY from start to finish. People may argue Joshua has. But I’d disagree. That’s why he came unstuck against Ruiz. His title shot fell upon him, when Charles Martin saw a MASSIVE payday for himself.

He needs to do better. Point blank.

I understand what Edward was trying to do with matchroom USA but in order for that promotion to be park he really needed to entice dayzin to scoop up top rank and pbc as well. The problem is that dayzin doesn’t have any other sports for Yanks to see. Had they gotten college football, basketball, and perhaps nascar, grand slam level tennis, etc etc and certainly if they had gotten a pro level mlb, nfl, or nba contract that would have helped but I just do think the minds behind dayzin and Edward understood the American sports market. Boxing is a niche sport in the USA and the only way to grow it is to put it on free tv. I don’t even agree with the PPV if I’m honest. There really needs to be less than 6 of those a year maximum and should be reserved for the super fight unification types.
Hearn had gotten his American fighters paid so I’m sure they are not complaining but it’s certainly hurt their profiles....the average American may run into the Charlos, plant, Rigo, Lopez, Loma, etc etc by flipping through the stations or just tuning into FOX or ESPN because they love sports but that just can’t happen for BooBoo, Jacobs, or even Canelo....who’s star power had indeed waned since HBO threw in the towel. Canelo should have signed directly with Showtime who then could have put some of his fights against no hopers on CBS fee tv. Of course Canelo would have had to take less money but then anyone who doesn’t see $35m a pop for the Rocky fieldings of the world as gross overpayment is blind as Father Time’s goat...

[Oldskoolg]

I hear what you are saying, but my thing is this, Lomachenko is a much better boxer than Devin Haney, much more difficult to figure out and keep up with.

Theirs no way Lopez and his team are avoiding him. They’re doing what all fighters do. They’re trying to milk all they can before making it. That’s just what happens. Just because Lopez doesn’t fight Haney next or when you want it to be, doesn’t mean they’re “ducking”.

It just annoys me a bit, when we have fighters who actually beat somebody who is basically a modern day Legend in boxing terms, and they get accused of been a duck or other insults.

Dude barely fought a few months ago, was a HUGE underdog against a master boxer with a wealth of experience, and dominated the majority of the fight. Let him enjoy his props.

He’s likely got a mando defence next. Maybe after that or when Haney beats a live body we will see it next.

Realistically, no TV Networks, promoters or even the two fighters themselves, are interested in making a fight without full capacity of fans in arenas. The fight has a whole lot of growing to do. Eddie Hearn needs to do a much better job with Haney, and get him that STANDOUT name for him to beat, if he does that then Haney has every right to call Lopez out for avoiding him. But not yet. Best way to break it down is this:

Devin Haney is a belt holder in the Lightweight division. (Fantastic Talent btw)
-
Teofimo Lopez is THE Reigning UNIFIED Lightweight CHAMP of the World. He took out THE Biggest PLAYER in the Division.
(Basically Undisputed to majority of fight fans)


Theirs a gulf right now of where both guys are in their respective careers.

Haney is an exceptional talent. But he’s not proven it at the HIGHEST of levels. And he can’t just keep saying it’s because everybody ducks me. Theirs Many guys in LW right now.

He’s happy with the calibre of opponents he’s been getting. Anybody worth a grain of salt knew that The Gamboa fight was only a step up on paper. Dude was shot AF.

Eddie loves letting us all know about it if a fighter ain’t making same as the other guy or whose the A-Side, proving themselves etc.

Yet it seems that’s only the case when Eddie has the A-Side, when he doesn’t he just expects champs to give his guys the fights he wants. All because lord Hearn says so? lol. Not how it works.

Truth is, Haney has barked with no bite. Can only look upon himself/handlers at his career stagnating. He chose that DAZN/MATCHROOM money thinking he’s onto the yellow brick road. Boy ain’t beaten Nobody.

He does have a point....if Haney can indeed perform against championship level opposition than he does present a serious problem for both Lopez and Loma. Question is why he is Haney avoiding top in prime opposition. At the top level Haney just may be one of those Maurice Blocker types who can beat the top guys but lack of power will make it unappealing to watch.....and in this day and age winning without excitement is almost worst than losing