3G lost, Fury drew, May is unbeaten, stop crying

[Dip_Slide]

Shït thread but I'll still write an opinion just to piss you off. GGG beat Canelo twice in my eyes and in the eyes of many people. Doesn't diminish Canelo as far as his skill set or status as top P4P, all the greats lost, but he gave a great account of himself and lost by a point and then moved on to do pretty impressive things in boxing. But no way he won 6 round in the 1st fight and 7 in the 2nd.

[aboutfkntime]

I mean seriously. Y'all think real ****ing highly of your own opinions don't you?

Every thread multiple mugs have to pretend like official reasoning has considered their opinion.

No one at the IBHOF gives a **** what you think bud.

No one at Boxrec over rules an outcome because you feel strongly.

None of the bodies disregard their own ****ing rulings, ya moron.

Ring/TBRB do not rank based on your thoughts


Pac lost to Bradley, and Horn. stop crying

3G never beat Canelo, not once, not twice, never. you're a *****

Tyson Fury got a draw and he's lucky to have, ffs.

Wlad was not even ****ing close to winning against Fury. Really, not even close.

Wilder's been fighting top tens for a long time now.

Bermane, Charles, and Joe are former champions

Floyd has zero losses

your scorecard is the most pointless **** we ever talk about on here.

so on. this could go forever.

It's fine in threads like "your top ten" but in threads like "Who should X fight next" don't tell me some bull**** about some ending that didn't happen. It's not just a waste of time, it's annoying baby bull**** brought to you by grown ass men.

thoroughly agree !

" but, everyone knows "... is not a valid argument for anything

[aboutfkntime]

is this a new rule here, that if something is official noone is allowed to give an opinion or discuss it?

this is how dictators begin

a discussion, absolutely

this is directed toward the guys who think that their opinion is valid evidence to win a argument

especially with boxing, where the "majority" seem to be wrong more often than not

[MUNG]

a discussion, absolutely

this is directed toward the guys who think that their opinion is valid evidence to win a argument

especially with boxing, where the "majority" seem to be wrong more often than not

at the end of the day i'll take my opinion over the likes of adelaide byrd and that lot any day of the week and twice on sunday & oscar, hearn arum etc, they are all far more biased than the average member here & have spewed so much nonsense over the years u could write a comedy play about it

but yeah we all have out biased views, u do really need to watch a fight sound off and really play close attention and make notes even round by round

[Roadblock]

How many times did Floyd go to an opponents back yard?

How many times was Floyd not the (advantages given) A-side?

Do you think it matters, that he loses if he fought somewhere else he lives in the boxing capitol of the world , this is ****** sht , he is the A side, he is the No1 fighter in the world and if you care to compare him with any other star over the years that was as big as him and see where they fought and how they were always the A side you will realize thats boxing at the top.

The assumption that this sht makes him a different fighter better or worse is braindead material.

[Dariusz]

I mean seriously. Y'all think real ****ing highly of your own opinions don't you?

Every thread multiple mugs have to pretend like official reasoning has considered their opinion.

No one at the IBHOF gives a **** what you think bud.

No one at Boxrec over rules an outcome because you feel strongly.

None of the bodies disregard their own ****ing rulings, ya moron.

Ring/TBRB do not rank based on your thoughts


Pac lost to Bradley, and Horn. stop crying

3G never beat Canelo, not once, not twice, never. you're a *****

Tyson Fury got a draw and he's lucky to have, ffs.

Wlad was not even ****ing close to winning against Fury. Really, not even close.

Wilder's been fighting top tens for a long time now.

Bermane, Charles, and Joe are former champions

Floyd has zero losses

your scorecard is the most pointless **** we ever talk about on here.

so on. this could go forever.

It's fine in threads like "your top ten" but in threads like "Who should X fight next" don't tell me some bull**** about some ending that didn't happen. It's not just a waste of time, it's annoying baby bull**** brought to you by grown ass men.

Sorry, mate, you're only partially right. Whenever subjective human judges are being involved also not perfect decisions are being taken. The endless discussions are a natural result.

If, hypothetically, robots estimate the fight coldly and objectively, there is no possibility of giving a wrong verdict unless this robot is broken. Further discussions are useless.

This refers not only to boxing but to each sport discipline which is not measured by seconds or kilograms.

I think sports must go in the direction of eliminating humans totally from deciding who won or who lost. We all know very well fights ended with a unjust verdict.

[fistic flow]

Do you think it matters, that he loses if he fought somewhere else he lives in the boxing capitol of the world , this is ****** sht , he is the A side, he is the No1 fighter in the world and if you care to compare him with any other star over the years that was as big as him and see where they fought and how they were always the A side you will realize thats boxing at the top.

The assumption that this sht makes him a different fighter better or worse is braindead material.

Only if you deny the reality that fighting outside your comfort zones brings a whole host of other variables/ unknowns to contend with. Sugar Ray Robinson, Duran, Hagler, Ali, Pacquaio - A sides that beg to differ.

[aboutfkntime]

Sorry, mate, you're only partially right. Whenever subjective human judges are being involved also not perfect decisions are being taken. The endless discussions are a natural result.

If, hypothetically, robots estimate the fight coldly and objectively, there is no possibility of giving a wrong verdict unless this robot is broken. Further discussions are useless.

This refers not only to boxing but to each sport discipline which is not measured by seconds or kilograms.

I think sports must go in the direction of eliminating humans totally from deciding who won or who lost. We all know very well fights ended with a unjust verdict.

there are times... when a judge can get it wrong

overall... there are very few times that all judges get it wrong, to the point where it affects the outcome... very rarely... it happens, but not very often

the point Marchegiano was making... it is far more likely that fans either do not understand the rules, or do not understand how the fight unfolded

fans have made the most braindead comments imaginable to invent a reason to disagree with the judges

I have seen NUMEROUS fans start with the old "honestly, some boxing fans don't know how to score a fight these days..." ... and then immediately prove in their very next sentence, that they do not know how to score a fight

most of the fan nonsense is bollocks, which is why you often hear most fighters/trainers agree with the officials or at least account for why they made a certain decision

robot judging is a long way off, if ever... it would require years of testing/implementation... not sure that will ever happen

punch-stats are nearly impossible to record accurately, and often they are not relevant to how a fight unfolds... which is why they are not official scoring criteria... a robot would need to work out why certain things are happening and calculate for effective aggression, ring generalship, and defence... it would need to accommodate all styles and cannot be relied upon to adjudicate rare/difficult/new situations that will occur

most times the officials get it right, and the fans get it wrong

[Boxing-1013]

I think most folk that do KSAB think GGG won the 1st and Canelo won the 2nd . The judges thought different in the 1st fight though

Lol, man Canelo has a really low bar for winning rounds for some people. Or, more appropriately, GGG has too high of a bar for some people. Canelo got similarly outworked in both fights. GGG is a lot more active than him, and Canelo hasn't been able to hurt GGG to make up for that, not yet anyway.

Wasn't he just referring to the official results?

Wasn't that his point?

Basically what the guy below me said, but seriously. Robberies happen all the time in this sport; to not admit that and just co-sign official results is one of the dumbest things I've heard on here in a long time.

is this a new rule here, that if something is official noone is allowed to give an opinion or discuss it?

this is how dictators begin

[Boxing-1013]

there are times... when a judge can get it wrong

overall... there are very few times that all judges get it wrong, to the point where it affects the outcome... very rarely... it happens, but not very often

the point Marchegiano was making... it is far more likely that fans either do not understand the rules, or do not understand how the fight unfolded

fans have made the most braindead comments imaginable to invent a reason to disagree with the judges

I have seen NUMEROUS fans start with the old "honestly, some boxing fans don't know how to score a fight these days..." ... and then immediately prove in their very next sentence, that they do not know how to score a fight

most of the fan nonsense is bollocks, which is why you often hear most fighters/trainers agree with the officials or at least account for why they made a certain decision

robot judging is a long way off, if ever... it would require years of testing/implementation... not sure that will ever happen

punch-stats are nearly impossible to record accurately, and often they are not relevant to how a fight unfolds... which is why they are not official scoring criteria... a robot would need to work out why certain things are happening and calculate for effective aggression, ring generalship, and defence... it would need to accommodate all styles and cannot be relied upon to adjudicate rare/difficult/new situations that will occur

most times the officials get it right, and the fans get it wrong

We see TERRIBLE robberies ALL THE TIME in this sport though. Nobody should co-sign the talking point that the judges are infallible. Often times, they are corrupt.

The worst cards generally are when prospects step up and get worked. Yet the judges know their role and the prospect still gets the result. Happens all the time.