Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Manager/Trainer: Spence Trying To Find A Way Out With Crawford

[ShoulderRoll]

Okay man whatever you say. Caveats and excuses are reigning in this weird world of sports and politics we’re in right now anyway. Deontay Wilder’s own trainer drugged his water too. Any outlandish thing you can think of to say must be true just cause you have the audacity to say it. Thats the times we live in. Errol Spence has options(excuses) and Terence Crawford is on the outside(avoided) looking in. Thats the reality y’all live in.

Its not "whatever I say."

It's a fact. Wilder would have been bringing the majority of US interest to a PPV against Joshua.

Even to this day Joshua is not that big of a deal in America. Especially after his debut at Madison Square Garden was a complete flop.

[Szef]

When it comes to US PPV revenue Wilder would have been the A-side by far over Joshua. That's not even debatable.

Of course he would

[The D3vil]

Spence had around 350,000 PPV buys against Porter. Porter is neither Mexican nor Puerto Rican.

In fact Porter is Crawford's mandatory. Bud should fight him so we can see if he magically starts drawing as you say.

And Crawford got almost 2 million to tune in against Brook, who's not even American on ESPN, imagine how many more would've tuned in if he was fighting a Mexican American or a Puerto Rican American or even a known African American like Porter.

These dudes are around the same level of fame and Crawford's more accomplished by far.

Spence aint Floyd, Manny, Canelo, or Sugar Ray Leonard.

He's a product of the PBC machine in terms of popularity. Great fighter, but he's as delusional as you're claiming bud is.

[The D3vil]

What kind of dumbass logic is that?

Who gives a damn Wilder is American when no one in America knows him

It took a Brit in Fury for him to get some recognition in his own country

He never made, doesnt make and never will make anything close to what Joshua is making

Had less belts than Joshua

You Americans really need a wake up call

This isn't the 90's anymore.the rest of the world doesn't admire you. We pity you.

That's completely false that nobody knows Wilder in America.

The guy was the heavyweight champion for 5 years.

He almost sold out the Barclay's center in the media capital of the world against Luis Ortiz, FFS.

He was on ESPN talk shows regularly



Even his girlfriend had her own reality show, FFS



Apparently, you don't live here, so don't speak on us and our culture.

You live in a small ass country and your guy is a big fish in a small pond.

We live in a country 5 times your size and all it takes is a fraction of us to give a damn to more than double your whole country giving a damn.

[Szef]

That's completely false that nobody knows Wilder in America.

The guy was the heavyweight champion for 5 years.

He almost sold out the Barclay's center in the media capital of the world against Luis Ortiz, FFS.

He was on ESPN talk shows regularly



Even his girlfriend had her own reality show, FFS



Apparently, you don't live here, so don't speak on us and our culture.

You live in a small ass country and your guy is a big fish in a small pond.

We live in a country 5 times your size and all it takes is a fraction of us to give a damn to more than double your whole country giving a damn.

You also live in a country where people are 5x more delusional

What an idiotic reasoning you have smh

[ShoulderRoll]

And Crawford got almost 2 million to tune in against Brook, who's not even American on ESPN, imagine how many more would've tuned in if he was fighting a Mexican American or a Puerto Rican American or even a known African American like Porter.

These dudes are around the same level of fame and Crawford's more accomplished by far.

Spence aint Floyd, Manny, Canelo, or Sugar Ray Leonard.

He's a product of the PBC machine in terms of popularity. Great fighter, but he's as delusional as you're claiming bud is.

For a PPV purse split you have to compare PPV numbers before anything else. You know that.

But even then Errol Spence has Crawford beat there too. Feel free to compare his NBC ratings to the ESPN numbers.

You say he is a product of the PBC machine. If that's true then they have obviously done a better job of building his name up than Crawford's promoter has.

With the work they have put in they have every right to demand a larger portion of the purse.

[peplz]

Its not "whatever I say."

It's a fact. Wilder would have been bringing the majority of US interest to a PPV against Joshua.

Even to this day Joshua is not that big of a deal in America. Especially after his debut at Madison Square Garden was a complete flop.

Alternative facts.

[ShoulderRoll]

Alternative facts.

Sure, buddy. Whatever you say. Joshua was a bigger draw in the US than Wilder, you win.

[peplz]

Sure, buddy. Whatever you say. Joshua was a bigger draw in the US than Wilder, you win.

I always win. Its nothing new.

[The D3vil]

You also live in a country where people are 5x more delusional

What an idiotic reasoning you have smh

LMAO, the people who thought Audley Harrison & David Price were gonna be huge stars and Amir Khan was gonna take over calling people "delusional".

For a PPV purse split you have to compare PPV numbers before anything else. You know that.

But even then Errol Spence has Crawford beat there too. Feel free to compare his NBC ratings to the ESPN numbers.

You say he is a product of the PBC machine. If that's true then they have obviously done a better job of building his name up than Crawford's promoter has.

With the work they have put in they have every right to demand a larger portion of the purse.

I agree PPV numbers should matter to an extent, but 1 man doesn't make a fight.

It's disingenuous to pretend that Spence hasn't had more marketable people to fight, which is a problem.

He's fought people with built in bases, Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and African-Americans.

Bud's had to fight mostly foreigners from Africa, Australia, Eastern Europe, and the UK in most of his fights

You can't argue that has nothing to do with PPV buy rates.

Spence aint selling them fights by himself, especially in the case of the 2 Garcias and Porter.

Like I said, all things considered, they're around the same level of fame here in America.

If you know who Spence is, you know who Crawford is and vice versa.

Spence aint Canelo, Manny, or one of the Mexican-American guys who's just a household name or something.

None of these guys are Floyd or Oscar, therefore they shouldn't be trying to do anything but fight the champions in their division, unify, and THEN start claiming they're huge stars.