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  • Originally posted by The D3vil View Post
    LMAO, the people who thought Audley Harrison & David Price were gonna be huge stars and Amir Khan was gonna take over calling people "delusional".



    I agree PPV numbers should matter to an extent, but 1 man doesn't make a fight.

    It's disingenuous to pretend that Spence hasn't had more marketable people to fight, which is a problem.

    He's fought people with built in bases, Mexican-Americans, Puerto Ricans, and African-Americans.

    Bud's had to fight mostly foreigners from Africa, Australia, Eastern Europe, and the UK in most of his fights

    You can't argue that has nothing to do with PPV buy rates.

    Spence aint selling them fights by himself, especially in the case of the 2 Garcias and Porter.

    Like I said, all things considered, they're around the same level of fame here in America.

    If you know who Spence is, you know who Crawford is and vice versa.

    Spence aint Canelo, Manny, or one of the Mexican-American guys who's just a household name or something.

    None of these guys are Floyd or Oscar, therefore they shouldn't be trying to do anything but fight the champions in their division, unify, and THEN start claiming they're huge stars.
    Danny Garcia and Porter have been offered as opponents for Crawford, as has Keith Thurman. And Crawford has turned them all down!

    He has had the same marketable opponents available to him so that is no excuse.

    When he comes to the table with only the terrible Amir Khan PPV numbers he can't ask to get a 50/50 split. No businessman or promoter in the world would give that to him.

    It's simply not justified.

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    • Originally posted by peplz View Post
      Excuses on top of excuses into a castle in the sky.
      If a girl is playing hard to get but a prettier girl isn’t. Would you wait on the uglier one?

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      • Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post
        If a girl is playing hard to get but a prettier girl isn’t. Would you wait on the uglier one?
        Who is this hypothetical other easier prettier metaphorical girl? It definitely isn’t Alvarez and Pacquiao is 42 and barely ever fights so just that alone is “uglier”. And how is this SAT style question not just trying to explain away the excuses?

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        • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
          Danny Garcia and Porter have been offered as opponents for Crawford, as has Keith Thurman. And Crawford has turned them all down!

          He has had the same marketable opponents available to him so that is no excuse.

          When he comes to the table with only the terrible Amir Khan PPV numbers he can't ask to get a 50/50 split. No businessman or promoter in the world would give that to him.

          It's simply not justified.
          I thought Crawford was across the street and on the outside looking in and didn’t have any options and shouldn’t have renewed his contract with Top Rank. Now all of the sudden “he has had the same marketable opponents available to him”?! Look it what trying to defend a coward has done to you. Its got you all over the place being wishy washy and inconsistent making excuses and back pedaling. I mean which one is it? Does he need to sign to PBC or does he need to fight PBC opponents for a bologne sandwich and a back of chips “or whatever we decide to give him”. Be careful. It takes an excuse to excuse an excuse and a lie to cover up a lie.

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          • Originally posted by peplz View Post
            I thought Crawford was across the street and on the outside looking in and didn’t have any options and shouldn’t have renewed his contract with Top Rank. Now all of the sudden “he has had the same marketable opponents available to him”?! Look it what trying to defend a coward has done to you. Its got you all over the place being wishy washy and inconsistent making excuses and back pedaling. I mean which one is it? Does he need to sign to PBC or does he need to fight PBC opponents for a bologne sandwich and a back of chips “or whatever we decide to give him”. Be careful. It takes an excuse to excuse an excuse and a lie to cover up a lie.
            What are you talking about?

            The argument was that Spence has better opponents available and that's why he has better numbers.

            But Haymon has been willing to let Porter, Danny Garcia, Thurman, and even Ugas go fight on ESPN. So those opponents were just as available to Crawford.

            But none of those fights have gotten done.

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            • Originally posted by peplz View Post
              Who is this hypothetical other easier prettier metaphorical girl? It definitely isn’t Alvarez and Pacquiao is 42 and barely ever fights so just that alone is “uglier”. And how is this SAT style question not just trying to explain away the excuses?
              The prettier one is an analogy to “money” einstein. Go back and get your GED jr and dont forget to have your mommy change your diaper.

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              • Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
                Danny Garcia and Porter have been offered as opponents for Crawford, as has Keith Thurman. And Crawford has turned them all down!

                He has had the same marketable opponents available to him so that is no excuse.

                When he comes to the table with only the terrible Amir Khan PPV numbers he can't ask to get a 50/50 split. No businessman or promoter in the world would give that to him.

                It's simply not justified.
                Basically. By asking for even or more money hes pretty much talking himself out of the Spence fight.. so it's the other way around. He has no leverage other than a strap that hes defended against nothing but washed up fighters and no names

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                  • Originally posted by MONGOOSE66 View Post
                    The prettier one is an analogy to “money” einstein. Go back and get your GED jr and dont forget to have your mommy change your diaper.
                    Thanks for helping me to make my point about you and the rest of you dorks who pretend to be boxing fans when you’re really just a bunch of groupies who try to count the next mans money.

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                    • Originally posted by peplz View Post
                      Thanks for helping me to make my point about you and the rest of you dorks who pretend to be boxing fans when you’re really just a bunch of groupies who try to count the next mans money.
                      Maybe I just used the wrong analogy for u.
                      Pretend that money and girls are instead ****. Make more sense to u. Lol. Wipe your nose boy.

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