Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford Manager/Trainer: Spence Trying To Find A Way Out With Crawford

[Lonelystoner]

These guys wanna cry about Spence for the next 5 years while ignoring opponents that are actually interested in fighting him right now. Stop chasing people that dont wanna fight you and focus on someone who actually does. The Crawford pity party ends now.

[The D3vil]

Floyd took less money against Arturo Gatti and Oscar De La Hoya.

Oscar De La Hoya was the biggest draw in the sport at that point and Arturo Gatti was the champion at the time.

It's one thing when the challenger takes less.

It's another thing when another champion, who's on ranked higher than you on P4P lists and is another American is being asked to take way less.

That's just disrespectful.

Plus, Floyd made $25 million fighting De La Hoya

That aint less.

Spence is acting like Crawford isn't headlining on ESPN regularly

p4p rankings are nice...they are mythical....they carry some weight but not alot....whats damning is arums comments about him losing money on him and him not selling....even if haymon were losing money on spence you wont hear it......even if its just bob thinking bud is leaving and hes doing a sabotage job on bud its not a good look

you can argue to death about spences opponents and how they helped sell ppvs...you can say whatever you want but spence has 3 somewhat successful ppvs....

its nice that bud is a p4p guy and headlines on espn...that alone isnt going to carry too much weight when it comes to tha tables

if you think bud is leaving top rank in a few months what would be the rush for spence when its possible that haymon could make a push for bud? how does bud leaving top rank possibly make spence in some magical rush to make the fight tomorrow? what does spence care?

Why would Spence say anything about the split?

Why not just say you want to fight?

Show me where you ever heard Ali, Leonard, Hagler, Holyfield, or anybody else talk about how they're not gonna fight another champion unless they get a 70-30 split or "whatever they give em"

Especially another American and the P4P king on many lists. He acts like Crawford's from some small country and should just be happy to be in his presence, when Crawford's more accomplished than Spence.

It's disrespectful on purpose.

Everything you said was on point except the Joshua-Wilder thing. At least Crawford and Spence are similar in levels if popularity. Anthony Joshua and Wilder were not and still are not similar in levels of popularity. Anthony Joshua is at least 5 times more popular than Wilder.

Dude, Joshua has a country of 60 million behind him.

Wilder has a country of 330 million behind him.

Joshua's a big fish in a small pond.

Wilder's a medium fish in a HUGE pond.

There's no way an American CHAMPION should ever be low-balled by some guy from a country 1/6th the size of ours.

It was a lowball on purpose.

Anthony Joshua could've made $50-100 million fighting Wilder in Las Vegas and purposely turned down the richest country in the history of the world to stay in the small pond.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

[TrnceBdChrlo Jr]

At the rate that everyone is avoiding Bud, he will have to move up to heavyweight to fight Tyson Fury or Anthony Joshua. Crazy thing is Crawford could outbox both of them.

[peplz]

Oscar De La Hoya was the biggest draw in the sport at that point and Arturo Gatti was the champion at the time.

It's one thing when the challenger takes less.

It's another thing when another champion, who's on ranked higher than you on P4P lists and is another American is being asked to take way less.

That's just disrespectful.

Plus, Floyd made $25 million fighting De La Hoya

That aint less.

Spence is acting like Crawford isn't headlining on ESPN regularly



Why would Spence say anything about the split?

Why not just say you want to fight?

Show me where you ever heard Ali, Leonard, Hagler, Holyfield, or anybody else talk about how they're not gonna fight another champion unless they get a 70-30 split or "whatever they give em"

Especially another American and the P4P king on many lists. He acts like Crawford's from some small country and should just be happy to be in his presence, when Crawford's more accomplished than Spence.

It's disrespectful on purpose.





Dude, Joshua has a country of 60 million behind him.

Wilder has a country of 330 million behind him.

Joshua's a big fish in a small pond.

Wilder's a medium fish in a HUGE pond.

There's no way an American CHAMPION should ever be low-balled by some guy from a country 1/6th the size of ours.

It was a lowball on purpose.

Anthony Joshua could've made $50-100 million fighting Wilder in Las Vegas and purposely turned down the richest country in the history of the world to stay in the small pond.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2...der-us-insist/

It would only serve Wilder for the fight to take place here especially at that time. Just like it would only serve Spence for the fight to take place in Texas. He’s just gonna bark about his status and money splits to the media to try to gain an advantage and popularity off of trying to disparage another fighter’s name. Exactly the same as what Wilder did with Joshua.

[Tlows1]

Just fight somebody

I think Bud should fight Porter, I'd love to see how reacts to real pressure. I have seen him deal with that yet. But definitely don't think it should be a 50/50 split, he doesn't bring more numbers than Spence. I'd take the 60/40 and prove my worth, because his 147 opponents are suspect.

[Tlows1]

He's only P4P on ESPN Canelo should be the top rated fighter. Y'all are still giving him credit for his 140 pound fights, that's bull****.

[ShoulderRoll]

Oscar De La Hoya was the biggest draw in the sport at that point and Arturo Gatti was the champion at the time.

It's one thing when the challenger takes less.

It's another thing when another champion, who's on ranked higher than you on P4P lists and is another American is being asked to take way less.

That's just disrespectful.

Plus, Floyd made $25 million fighting De La Hoya

That aint less.

Spence is acting like Crawford isn't headlining on ESPN regularly

Spence is a bigger draw in the sport than Crawford at this point. Based on each man's ticket sales and PPV buys.

Spence is also more of a champion as he has unified more belts at 147. As opposed to Crawford who just has one belt.

40% of the purse split is a lot of money, even if it's less than Spence's share.

[The D3vil]

It would only serve Wilder for the fight to take place here especially at that time. Just like it would only serve Spence for the fight to take place in Texas. He’s just gonna bark about his status and money splits to the media to try to gain an advantage and popularity off of trying to disparage another fighter’s name. Exactly the same as what Wilder did with Joshua.

Again, you're ignoring that Spence & Crawford come from the same country. Texas & Nebraska aren't even that far away from each other.

Wilder & Joshua do not.

It's ridiculous for a guy from a country of 60 million to try to lowball another champion from a country of 330 million, where the most money is to be made.

[The D3vil]

Spence is a bigger draw in the sport than Crawford at this point. Based on each man's ticket sales and PPV buys.

Spence is also more of a champion as he has unified more belts at 147. As opposed to Crawford who just has one belt.

40% of the purse split is a lot of money, even if it's less than Spence's share.

Stop, Crawford's a 3 division champ, undefeated, P4P king, who completely unified at 140 and regularly headlines on ESPN, the biggest sports network in America.

The only thing Spence has over Crawford is PBC & Al Haymon allowing him to fight people like Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Swift Garcia.

[ShoulderRoll]

Stop, Crawford's a 3 division champ, undefeated, P4P king, who completely unified at 140 and regularly headlines on ESPN, the biggest sports network in America.

The only thing Spence has over Crawford is PBC & Al Haymon allowing him to fight people like Mikey Garcia, Shawn Porter, and Swift Garcia.

Beating the likes of Indongo at 140 to unify hasn't impressed enough to get people to buy Crawford's PPVs.

At the end of the day you come to the table with your numbers when you negotiate a purse split. That's the way it has always been, I don't get why some of you guys want the rules to change just for Crawford now.