Comments Thread For: Spence Says Crawford Needs To Take Lower Purse Split: "I'm The Big Dog At 147"

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  • hitmanjosh
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    #151
    After watching Canelo last night,

    Spence can’t *** with Canelo and his boxing IQ isn’t Floyd’s so he’s becoming full of himself. Canelo may stop Spence like that accident; In fact I can see him drinking again after he fights Canelo, it’ll be like a veteran going to war and coming back home with PTSD I just need a drink to help past the time because I see dead people.

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    • 501_Boy
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      #152
      Originally posted by Ca$ual Fan
      This IS what boxing has become. This is one of the major reasons why UFC is taking over. When fighters start talking like this, they forget they participate in a competitive sport where fans came to see.
      Yet people want to blame the YouTubers, Tyson, and/or Floyd.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Spence got touched up by Porter because he struggled to get to 147! He won't have that problem @ 160! Question is can Canelo make 160? I doubt it! Canelo got touched up badly by Erislandy Lara! Spence has more dog in him than Lara, and still southpaw! I think it would be a great fight!
        Spence gets wrecked, absolutely wrecked.

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        • amuroray
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          #154
          I desperately want to see the fight but i cant see an issue with the 60-40 split being in spences favor. He has worked hard to achieve a higher level of exposure then crawford and thus should be-rewarded with a higher split.

          Crawford isnt a draw at all and has made no effort in being one so he cant complain.

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          • 5000boxing
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            #155
            Spence got more belts so 60-40 would be solid.. But that 70-30.. Now that's wild.. The boxing world respects Crawford enough for 60-40 split.. He beat khan and brook.. So he got some uk fans.. Some aussie and phillipino fans with the jeff horn win.. He got the whole state of Nebraska riding with him and he was the undisputed jr. welterweight champion... And he's undefeated.. So he's the perfect dance partner... Spence is wilding out with the 70-30.. They should do a two fight deal.. Winner get 60-40 in the rematch.. Easy peazy!

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            • HewJohnson
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              #156
              Originally posted by Drew Bundini Br
              I beg to differ. Pac needs a cash out payday also so he should fight Spence. Spence does 250k to 350k PPV which is only second to Canelo I believe. Spence vs Crawford won't be as big until Spence beats Pac to get worldwide acclaim. Bud won't be fighting anyone from PBC until he's out of his deal.
              2nd to Canelo? Lmao.
              Canelo does 1M PPV buys.

              Spence doesn’t even do a 3rd of that.

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                #157
                Originally posted by whollisboxing
                I know it sounds counter-intuitive but the fact that Spence is smaller might not hinder him as much.

                Kovalev, Smith and GGG couldn't discourage him, however they were also slower and easier to hit. Canelo's toughest fights didn't involve big punchers (Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Erislandy Lara) so I would be curious to see two things
                Floyd and Lara were effective against Canelo because they were defensively sound, good counter-punchers, and could take advantage of Canelo's bad stamina where he only fought in spots. Also, and this is pretty important, Floyd and Lara fought an inexperienced 23 year-old Canelo. The Canelo that fought last night is much better than that younger Canelo.

                Originally posted by whollisboxing
                1. Whether Alvarez would be drained at 160
                Canelo literally said he isnt fighting at 160 last night and is going to unify at SMW. He's not fighting Spence unless Errol goes to 168 and Errol has never even fought at 154...it's not happening.

                Originally posted by whollisboxing
                2. How he would handle someone closer to him in both size AND coordination
                Spence is a come-forward fighter that uses a "downhill" approach which relies on a good jab (always backing opponent up) and high volume output (always keeping opponent on defensive). In order to fight this style you need to be bigger than your opponent with a longer reach, taller frame, and be bigger/stronger. Spence has ALL of those ATTRIBUES AT 147.

                Against Canelo, Spence will have a very small edge (~1-2 inches) in both height and reach. However, whatever advantage he had in power at WELTERWEIGHT will be NONEXISTENT against Canelo.

                Also, Canelo seems to have developed the same elite defense that Floyd and Lara had in that Canelo has the ability to lower opponents output (Jacobs, Smith, Kovalev). Canelo's counter-punching has also improved and he's among the best in the game today.

                And we can't even say for sure that Spence is faster. Canelo looks lightning fast versus these bigger guys but Spence is also not the fastest fighter in all his fights.

                Originally posted by whollisboxing
                Now if Spence can't box effectively from distance then everything I said goes out the window, however I would love to see how Canelo would handle a smaller, faster opponent now that he has evolved to a higher level.
                Errol is not an evasive fighter and he doesn't really counter-punch. Errol has a high-output style and mixes up his punches well but he doesn't have the attributes that we've seen successful against Canelo (elite defense, elite counter-punching, elite fighting off the backfoot)

                And I actually question Errol's chin. He was buzzed a couple of times against Danny Garcia and Shawn Porter. Canelo is stronger than Porter and Garcia and a better counter-puncher than Garcia.

                Very tough for me to see this being a competitive fight but I don't like Spence so I'd happily pay to see this fight

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                • HewJohnson
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by techliam
                  This is a 50/50 fight

                  There are no realistic huge fights for them outside of each other

                  Pacquiao the exception though he will be getting the lions share of any purse anyway

                  100% truth.

                  This isn’t confusing fellas. It’s this simple.

                  Spence only calling Canelo name because he wants the money. Same for Pacquiao.
                  Explains why he wants the majority against Crawford.

                  He knows Canelo KO’s Spence. Easy work for Saul.

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                  • HewJohnson
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                    #159
                    Originally posted by BoxingGuru619
                    I agree with Spence. Crawford is definitely the B side to Spence. Spence is proven to be a decent ppv draw with more popularity.

                    Has a deeper resume at welterweight than Crawford.

                    Holds 2 belts which are each more relevant than the wbo.

                    Has far more options at this point without Crawford also.

                    Crawford is getting smoked out just like Demetrius Andrade.

                    Spence isn’t that big of a draw. Might be bigger name than Crawford but at this point neither of them are big draws. Spence gets 100-150K more PPV buys?? Whoa, big numbers.

                    Lmao.

                    This is a 50/50 fight and whoever wins will reap the benefits going forward. That’s the major purse there.

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by amuroray
                      I desperately want to see the fight but i cant see an issue with the 60-40 split being in spences favor. He has worked hard to achieve a higher level of exposure then crawford and thus should be-rewarded with a higher split.

                      Crawford isnt a draw at all and has made no effort in being one so he cant complain.
                      100% truth.

                      Even Crawford's own promoter says that he doesn't put any work into promoting himself.

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