Canelo best ring IQ in boxing today

[Divine Hammer]

- robbery against lara and ggg twice

- competitive fight against old past prime cotto and mosley

- close competitive fights against trout and jacobs (arguably draw for both fights)

- was losing against khan and kovalev before he landed his steroid punches

best ring IQ????????? give me a frickin break hahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha

[kushking]

Most people believe GGG won both fights. Just saying. Studying boxing is good, trying to throw a guy under the bus that most people believe Canelo lost too twice is just dumb though.

"Most people" is rubbish Only haters believe Canelo lost twice(let alone clearly against the bigger guy lifelong mw Undefeated ggg,who acted like a diva & even picked Canelos gloves,same guy that ran from the mexican war he cried he deserved),isn't it a funny coincidence that ggg has now had debatable fights vs every actual championship level opponent hes faced,he arguably lost to Deryev,Canelo could've won both fights, (depending on scoring yes the 1st too)& he could've lost to Jacobs.

Those are the only 3 times cherrypicker Ggg has faced his entire career & suddenly he no longer looks like a monster,just as vs a mega no hoper Szrmtchamaka,he couldn't even ko the guy whom he knocked down in the 1st rd,it took 8 rds for him to quit between rds, & hes a club level fighter.

And you're crazy if you think prime Canelo loses to floyd who he faced 1st time.(the feet setting thing was only true vs Floyd when he had no stamina,& its no longer in any way true as he now looks like a damn bellerina like floyd in fights such as tonight, even floyd bragged about draining him on purpose after yrs of saying pacs cw wins don't count)

[!! Shawn]

"Most people" is rubbish Only haters believe Canelo lost twice(let alone clearly against the bigger guy lifelong mw Undefeated ggg,who acted like a diva & even picked Canelos gloves),isn't it a funny coincidence that ggg has now had debatable fights vs every actual championship level opponent hes faced,he arguably lost to Deryev,Canelo could've won both fights, (depending on scoring yes the 1st too)& he could've lost to Jacobs. Those are the only 3 times cherrypicker Ggg has faced his entire career & suddenly he no longer looks like a monster,just as vs a mega no hoper Szrmtchamaka,he couldn't even ko the guy whom he knocked down in the 1st rd,it took 8 rds for him to quit & hes a club level fighter.

And you're crazy if you think prime Canelo loses to floyd who he faced 1st time.(the feet setting thing was only true vs Floyd when he had no stamina,& its no longer in any way true as he now looks like a damn bellerina like floyd in fights such as tonight, even floyd bragged about draining him on purpose after yrs of saying pacs cw wins don't count)

If by haters you mean all but one ringside reporter. And something like 80% of people in the post fight polls. The 2nd fight was closer, but its almost unanimous agreement, except for the haters as you say, that GGG won the first fight, and either won or drew the 2nd fight.

[kushking]

If by haters you mean all but one ringside reporter. And something like 80% of people in the post fight polls. The 2nd fight was closer, but its almost unanimous agreement, except for the haters as you say, that GGG won the first fight, and either won or drew the 2nd fight.

Officially is the only thing that matters,no different than Leonard vs Hagler.

(That fight also had a Byrd scorecard that was unlikely to be legit but still possible because of the 10 point must system that makes every rd its own fight,so you can have 1 guy get outlanded in power shots by a few punches & land more arm punches & jabs,& still lose every round even if you are very close to winning the rd,if the other guy does the criteria for scoring better than you by a lil every rd it means he won that rd regardless of how it looks to casuals that make up the press scorers & fans, because each rds its own fight & each rdfight can be razor close but you can't score sympathy rds because 1 guy is winning all rds by a few punches at most,(I've seen press score this way)

(most fight scorers from almost every major outlet are complete novices that have never learned how to properly score rds let alone professionally, I've seen them score countless 10-10 rds because according to them 1 guy didn't do enough even if he did more than the other guy, I've seen them admit to being prepared to score every close rd to Jacobs but being disappointed they couldn't because he was blown out by Canelo.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Canelo has never looked like the ****** up zombie that showed up to the weigh in,& hes never looked so listless without power,stamina or energy,he has never since then either. Props to Floyd on the schooling but I am convinced it would be a different fight a yr or 2 later at full 154.

2 years later Mayweather was faded too much.

The Floyd Mayweather that fought De La Hoya would of stopped Alvarez 'I don't think Alvarez has improved, too slow on his feet to beat Mayweather.

I just believe the opponents he has been facing of late, have created a illusion that he has transcended his game 'Technically his opponents have just gotten worst'.

There is no way in the 90's or early 2000's, does Canelo Alvarez play around in the middle-super-middle weight and light heavyweight divisions 'Without being sparked out'.

The middle weight divisions historically is probably the greatest division competitively 'But these past few years, it has been terrible'.

[deathofaclown]

Canelo has never looked like the ****** up zombie that showed up to the weigh in,& hes never looked so listless without power,stamina or energy,he has never since then either. Props to Floyd on the schooling but I am convinced it would be a different fight a yr or 2 later at full 154.

Canelo weighed in at 153 for the fight before Floyd, so I don’t think the weight was a huge deal.

He was simply beaten by a better and more experienced fighter. Floyd wasn’t in his prime either.

Canelo has simply always struggled to impose himself on anyone with good movement. Everyone has a style that gives them problems.

[PRINCEKOOL]

I don't think his ring IQ is much more superior to other top fighters but? He processes information faster than most. Some people are good that mental arithmetic, others better at working things out on paper using more time.

Inside of a boxing ring, it is all arithmetic. Mayweather even though he was not at his peak? Could still move faster than Alvarez as well has decode situations at a higher speed 'I don't think Alvarez has greatly improved at all since that fight, his competition has gotten worst'.

[GrandpaBernard]

Wise guy Floyd commentating on an Alvarez fight would be a treat

[elfag]

Canelo was a box on the outside counter puncher when he met mayweather. That usually worked well because he has fast hands but those guys get shut out by mayweather same as JMM, because you are never going to beat mayweather tyring to counter him on the outside.

Since that fight, Canelo has evolved and gotten more alternate gameplans, he has a come forward walk them down style, he used last night and in the second GGG fight. He fought GGG in difference styles in each fight, the same way mayweather adjusted and fought chino in a different style the second fight, that is the sign of an ATG fighter than can adjust and has more than one way or style to win.

Look at Smith last night, he just showed up to fight and he had heart to not quit, but he had no gameplan for a 5'8'' guy coming in on side of him, no adjustments made mid fight, nothing. That is the difference between an elite p4p fighter and a guy who just happens to be on top of a division for a short while.