GGG will break the middleweight record tonight, is he the greatest middleweight ever?

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  • just the facts
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    #51
    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
    You don't think Canelo's resume is significantly better than Golovkin's???

    Explain that. Using "just the facts."
    Your right overall Canelo has a much better resume but not lately.......,

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      #52
      Originally posted by N!Ck F.
      345-5 amateur record, Olympic silver medal, 6 junior amateur championships, 40-1 as a pro only loss at age 35 to arguably the current top p4p fighter. Never been knocked down as an amateur or pro.

      Doesn’t talk ****, doesn’t have a criminal history, no entourage...probably top 15 middleweight all time.

      Obviously he’s no Ray Robinson or Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler or Bernard Hopkins...hell he’s not even a James Toney or Roy Jones but he is an awesome boxer.
      Every thread on this casual packed forum is on him and how his credentials are meaningless. Cuz, u know, going 345-5 in amateur boxing is easy, Olympic medals are easy, and not losing ur first pro fight until you were 35 against the top p4p fighter by razor close/controversial fashion means nothing to casuals on boxingscene.
      Dam well said. I rate Triple G quite high. At least top 50 of all time.

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      • ShoulderRoll
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        #53
        Originally posted by just the facts
        Your right overall Canelo has a much better resume but not lately.......,
        Not lately?

        You realize that Golovkin has fought Szeremeta and Steve Rolls in 2 of his last 3 fights?

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        • Boxing-1013
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          #54
          Originally posted by just the facts
          Why would you think that? Does it matter?
          No, just thought it was funny that he was calling you a ****, when I thought I saw posts of yours before saying you were black/not white.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Noelanthony
            I do agree with a lot of what you say but he didn’t have a true testing fight until he was 34 years.There is no one on his resume that are good baring Jacob ,Canelo And the Russian ,and they were all close fights. All those opponents he beat ,Canelo and Jacob could beat too. I’m not questioning his accolades and attributes but the middleweight division in terms of competition has been dire which is no fault of his own
            Jacobs' recent fight with Rosado refutes that though. There are guys like Danny who can fight at the top level, but also don't always excel vs the other solid pros in those fights. He barely beat Gabe whereas GGG ran him over in 7 rounds. Similar with him and Sulecki though of course GGG never fought him. But surely he would KO him too.

            You may favor Danny or even Canelo in most or all of those 10-15 fights GGG had with guys like Rosado, Macklin, Murray etc, but odds are, in 1 or more of them, they would slip up a couple times or at least have a really close fight. It already happened for Danny twice against those types of opponents. That never happened for GGG, and it is rare.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Boxing-1013
              Jacobs' recent fight with Rosado refutes that though. There are guys like Danny who can fight at the top level, but also don't always excel vs the other solid pros in those fights. He barely beat Gabe whereas GGG ran him over in 7 rounds. Similar with him and Sulecki though of course GGG never fought him. But surely he would KO him too.

              You may favor Danny or even Canelo in most or all of those 10-15 fights GGG had with guys like Rosado, Macklin, Murray etc, but odds are, in 1 or more of them, they would slip up a couple times or at least have a really close fight. It already happened for Danny twice against those types of opponents. That never happened for GGG, and it is rare.
              Yes maybe with Danny as he has had a few lacklustre performances so maybe You are right. However Canelo is allot more consistent with his performances.
              I think at this stage of their career I think Canelo stoops GGG ( to the body) I also think Canelo did avoid GGG when he made his own weight division of 155

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                #57
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                Yes maybe with Danny as he has had a few lacklustre performances so maybe You are right. However Canelo is allot more consistent with his performances.
                I think at this stage of their career I think Canelo stoops GGG ( to the body) I also think Canelo did avoid GGG when he made his own weight division of 155
                That's all fair analysis. I think Canelo had a period too, where he may have struggled to dominate against a few guys on GGG's list, but this version of Canelo looks a good bit better than he did 5 years ago imo.

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