Wilder Deserves More Respect for the Stiverne Win

[KingHippo]

Yeah Stiverne was good, he had a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was KO'd by a guy who was 11-15.

Let's hope you're not a Pacquiao or Wlad fan.

[BoloShot]

- -Not by Ring or boxrec.

OP bigging up shot Arreola...Priceless!

Stiverne was ranked at #2 by The Ring.

[SUBZER0ED]

Ok, so let's give Wilder all of the credit in the world for beating Stiverne in 2015 & 2017. Now what? Do those wins have anything to do with his TKO loss to Fury this year? Do they take the sting off? Does Wilder sit around saying, "Well at least I beat Stiverne!"?

[BodiesInFlight]

I’ve mentioned a lot that Stiverne was considered a big favorite at the time, and was even ranked #2 in the division, but people only see what they want.

No way was Stiverne a "big favorite" he may have been favoured by some but big favourite is a bit much.

Wilder was always more hyped than Stiverne.

[KingHippo]

- -The OP has a fetish for jiggling male tltties.

Go figure...

So you hear the word "Stiverne" and automatically think about his juggling breasts?

[Marchegiano]

It's noble to try but ain't no one listening.

Firstly, no one will admit it but I've been here long enough to know most of our current posters are kinda new to the sport. They might have watched but only became avid fans on the heels of Joshua's rise. Joshua doesn't get enough credit for bringing boxing up in general.

Used to be the same folks until Money fights. Used to have a lot more slavs too.

They came in repeating **** they heard on Youtube like "Wilder's never fought a top ten" then you show him he has and they add legitimate. They pick and choose who was a real top ten and who isn't. Under that mindset they feel free to pick and choose who was a legitimate prospect, champion, or contender.

Funny how everyone else's ranks and title are legit but Wilder's wins are not.

Bunch of kids who didn't even watch Chris rise up the ranks cried because Chris got the fight then said Chris was never legitimate.

Same kids who didn't even watch Bermane go through the WBC then say **** like Wilder picked up Vitali's vacant....because they're that clueless.

Same kids tell me Tony Thompson is legit but Sam Peter ain't.

Dude, they just did not watch the k2 years and definitely paid no attention to the division.

Cry about overnight ranking and mandos like that wasn't Wlad's bag.

Cry about names as if they weren't men who were meant to face Klitschko.

Call Wlad an ATG but cry about everything he left to Wilder to clean up in the same fashion he used to.

Chris was the man who was meant to win, Bermane was an upset. Bermane was as real a champion as anyone Wlad ever beat but **** that because we now say anyone every holding a title or rank beat by Wilder ain't legit.

Wilder didn't come up looking to fight Anthony ****ing Joshua. Wilder was on track for Vitali who was the champion most thought would win in a h2h between the k2 bros.


It's all a bunch of ****, but hey, some *******s who just picked up their post count in ****ing 2016 got other opinions.

[FannonOG]

It was a great win for King Wilder. Real boxing fans know.

[_Rexy_]

Yeah Stiverne was good, he had a draw with a 17-17 fighter and was KO'd by a guy who was 11-15. He also beat Arreola twice.
ATG fighter until he meet Wilder and career over, what more can I say.
He should have ducked Wilder and defended against Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka and Washington. 4 of the easiest defense in history.
If only Stiverne was with Al instead of Don.

Unlike you, I watch the fights, I don’t check boxrec. Stiverne’s “KO Loss” is a bad stoppage even by UK stoppage standards.

[QueensburyRules]

Stiverne was ranked at #2 by The Ring.

- -U ring ain't The Ring...Duh!

[BoloShot]

- -U ring ain't The Ring...Duh!

I'm not a Wilder fan by any means but this is just a fact that many skip over. Stiverne was ranked top 10 both times Wilder beat him.