Wilder Deserves More Respect for the Stiverne Win

**_Rexy_** · 12-17-2020, 08:04 PM

I’ve mentioned a lot that Stiverne was considered a big favorite at the time, and was even ranked #2 in the division, but people only see what they want.

**QueensburyRules** · 12-17-2020, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by _Rexy_

I�ve mentioned a lot that Stiverne was considered a big favorite at the time, and was even ranked #2 in the division, but people only see what they want.

- -Not by Ring or boxrec.

OP bigging up shot Arreola...Priceless!

**KingHippo** · 12-17-2020, 08:13 PM

Originally posted by QueensburyRules

- -Not by Ring or boxrec.

OP bigging up shot Arreola...Priceless!

Shot by whom? And do you have any proof for it? Any variations in his speech patterns? And how does a shot fighter keep fighting for so long and still have all his senses??? lol

**Ochoa780** · 12-17-2020, 08:16 PM

Originally posted by KingHippo

This is a fighter who beat Arreola twice, and the second win was so glowing and dominant. If you didn't know, Arreola was very hyped and was seen as a future world champion at that time, especially after his performance against the first Klitschko.

Stiverne doesn't get enough recognition for his boxing IQ either. The way he throws that counter left hook and lulls his opponents to sleep is very cerebral. And there's still no better overhand rights in the division, at least not from the boxers I know.

So people need to stop dismissing Stiverne as a win and a fighter because he happens to be on Wilder's resume. This is in my opinion a better win than Ortiz, because we have no idea what Ortiz was on during his "prime". Stiverne was a solid win and he was a respected fighter before he fought Wilder. And judging him for any fight after Wilder is ridiculous. We can only imagine how much the Wilder fight took out of him when we consider the amount of damage he suffered.

After his performance against klitchko?? Arreola got dominated lmao what are you on? I want some

**Boxing-1013** · 12-17-2020, 08:17 PM

Which Stiverne? The first one?

I think Wilder looked pretty bad in that fight, so it's hard to say really.

**_Rexy_** · 12-17-2020, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by QueensburyRules

- -Not by Ring or boxrec.

OP bigging up shot Arreola...Priceless!

Yes by ring and tbrb.

Who cares about boxrec rankings? People just pick and choose when they�re pertinent. Not to mention it will show you his today ranking, not his ranking at the time.

**KingGilgamesh** · 12-17-2020, 08:28 PM

Tbh it was to see people bigging up Joyce's win over Stevens despite him being shot by then. Though I think Joyce is a damn good prospect too.

**SkiPete** · 12-17-2020, 08:56 PM

Can't take Stiverne seriously. No athlete could train properly with all that hair.

**jmrf4435** · 12-17-2020, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by KingHippo

This is a fighter who beat Arreola twice, and the second win was so glowing and dominant. If you didn't know, Arreola was very hyped and was seen as a future world champion at that time, especially after his performance against the first Klitschko.

Stiverne doesn't get enough recognition for his boxing IQ either. The way he throws that counter left hook and lulls his opponents to sleep is very cerebral. And there's still no better overhand rights in the division, at least not from the boxers I know.

So people need to stop dismissing Stiverne as a win and a fighter because he happens to be on Wilder's resume. This is in my opinion a better win than Ortiz, because we have no idea what Ortiz was on during his "prime". Stiverne was a solid win and he was a respected fighter before he fought Wilder. And judging him for any fight after Wilder is ridiculous. We can only imagine how much the Wilder fight took out of him when we consider the amount of damage he suffered.

this might be the most hilarious ****tttt on boxingscene yet.

How is this thread worthy? Stiverne isn't even relevant right now lolol

this is so funny and weird

Wilder Deserves More Respect for the Stiverne Win