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  • lefthook2daliva
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    #21
    Wouldn't want to see it unless Ruiz has a tune up and shows up minus a few cheeseburgers. He disrespected the sport, the championship and the fans. He needs to prove himself, imo. That said, I'd be rooting for him if he got his **** together.

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    • Toffee
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      #22
      Ruiz could be a top fighter.

      He knew what was ahead of him when he took the fight. Win once and become champion, make a lot of money in the contractually required rematch, and then win again to stay as champion.

      He couldn't complete the task. He didn't even really get close - he was on the beer and burgers within 6/7 weeks of signing the first contract.

      So I don't think Joshua owes him anything. He gave him his chance as a voluntary defence. Ruiz didn't take it. He blew it.

      I think the trilogy will pop up later when AJ needs an opponent. Footage of Ruiz beating Joshua up will sell the fight, no matter what Ruiz has done with the rest of his career.

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      • KingHippo
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        #23
        Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
        I think he should gun for Wilder after tuneup.
        I don't even think he wants that. Besides, we've seen him fight pudgy overblown hard punchers before. Didn't end very well.

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        • BodyBagz
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          #24
          1st fight was clearly a fluke

          It's why we didn't need Lennox to give his flukes a 3rd fight and why we didn't need a Holy Mike 3.

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          • JakeTheBoxer
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            #25
            Originally posted by BodyBagz
            1st fight was clearly a fluke

            It's why we didn't need Lennox to give his flukes a 3rd fight and why we didn't need a Holy Mike 3.
            So you say Fury must fight Wilder, even though he is 1-1-0 with him, but Joshua has no business fighting Ruiz. You are just a hypocrite. Even more, you even said, Wilder would be a winner of trilogy if he won the third fight, lol.

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              #26
              Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
              So you say Fury must fight Wilder, even though he is 1-1-0 with him, but Joshua has no business fighting Ruiz. You are just a hypocrite. Even more, you even said, Wilder would be a winner of trilogy if he won the third fight, lol.
              I must answer your question with a question -
              Was there a rematch clause in the 2nd fight ? If so, Andy WAS NEVER in the mood to enforce it

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              • Armchairhero
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                #27
                He isn’t even near the front of the queue, it has to be Fury x2 ,Usyk then Wilder..

                If he actually manages to win that run of fights he goes down as a great..

                Unless Andy destroys Wilder he isn’t getting in the mix for a few years.

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                • Laligalaliga
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by FinitoxDinamita
                  HW division is weak and if Ruiz got serious, he could beat anybody.

                  I think he should gun for Wilder after tuneup.
                  When has the HW division been strong for folks like you?
                  Every division is always weak in your assessment. You are better of watching base ball.
                  Haa.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                    Sure why not. Joshua said he'd like to fight Ruiz again. It would be ridiculous to expect him to drop the WBO belt to do it but Ruiz let the fame and success get to him I'd happily see a better trained and focused Ruiz get a shot.

                    But then there is only 1 person to blame for the state he turned up to the last fight in. With the way Joshua fought I don't think it would of made a difference but that's just my opinion.
                    He blew it, he doesn’t deserve a pay day he needs to work his way back up. He was unified champion all he had to do is put the snicker bars down for 5 months and dedicate himself. He may have been fighting for the undisputed at this stage but it was all too much. His performance in the rematch goes down as the worst performance by a unified champion that didn’t really take no punishment. He just couldn’t move his fat hips around the ring and embarrassed his trainer .

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kidbazooka
                      I agree Ruiz stopped Joshua while Joshua cautiously outboxed Ruiz.

                      Let’s see if Ruiz can come in disciplined now that he’s with Reynoso.
                      Ruiz issue was not his trainer though, so Reynoso isn’t going to do anything to help. He will be like a placebo. It’s really Ruiz who needs to change. A boxer could have god in his corner as the headcoach, it is still up to the boxer. Especially an experienced boxer like Ruiz.

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