Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua KOs Pulev With The Weight Of A Fury Bout On His Shoulders

[RoadMan94]

I saw the punches. And I saw the result, that Fury got up in a good state and was able to carry on. I've got nothing to gain from my view of the punches.

Why would you instead take the opinion of people who clearly have something to gain? Fury wants to build into the "can't be knocked out" idea. Wilder needed people to believe that he could find the one shot against Fury in a rematch. They were building the rematch.

They weren't as devastating as made out.

Let's take your idea further... should we believe Wilder's excuses? After all, it was him who experienced it, not us.

You are crazy mate. I mean that as in ya statement aswell. Not you personally. I hear what you are saying I really do. I just think it’s got no weight to it.

I totally understand the quality of wilders opponents was to be laughed at (majority of fights) but bro, look what happen to people when he touch them? That is not and cannot be faked! That’s pure power. I didn’t think Fury was off balance, I felt he just never came back up quick enough and wilder caught him,
Wilder kept throwing same shots, it took him til the 12th to throw the uppercut, fury was using the same movements repeatedly. He just didn’t get his head back up and away in time, fatigue mainly was to fault, the man had No right whatsoever even been in their that night.

Pretty remarkable what he achieved That night really.

It took corrupt judging to diminish what had happened! Just glad real fans knew what was up! Jim Gray wanted to rip that belt of wilder at one point and pass it to fury!

[Silver Spear]

Tyson Fury has never been a favorite at elite level 'That is pretty much the main point that was being highlighted by me in this thread'.

You have not given me or anybody else a perfect example in this thread about anything.

Tyson Fury was the underdog vs Wladimir Kiltschko, underdog vs David Haye, still the underdog vs Wilder in both fights 'Only now maybe when he faces Joshua, will he be the clear favorite' etc.

1. I am more than willing to link you a dozen articles showing all the betting odds in the Fury V Wilder rematch.
2. Fury was not the underdog in the rematch with Wilder.
3. Who rated him the underdog against Wilder the 2nd time around? The only people that really matter on who decides who is underdog or not are the bookies. Everyone else including you and I can go drink a coke.

[Silver Spear]

But that’s not true. In England, in Store- Coral Betting shop. I had Fury to win by KO/TKO Round 7. I got 13-1 because I put 20 and won 260! I basically picked rounds 3 7 and 9 on three bets. But for some reason backed the 7th mostly. Put £5 on 3 and 9 each just in case.

Fury was underdog. It was not 50/50. And when we talking about “experts” and fans? The general consensus was that Wilder was gonna KO fury, and that the 12th round of fight one showed he had figured out Tyson.

They’re was a small number that was arguing that Tyson, after getting up, beat wilder up and that he would do same.

Nobody, especially on here, believed fury would fight way he did. The WBC Themselves showed no respect to fury and made clear they want to help make AJ-FURY.

The very same website we is all on now? They ran an article fight week, basically telling us how fury is in the way of the super fight we all want, wilder needs to do what he does, KO fury and let’s get the undisputed.

I’ve tried to give you a couple of credible sources/ pieces of Proof that fury was indeed the underdog going in against wilder in fight one and two.

Truth is EVERYTIME fury fights at very top level he’s the underdog. Even to this day people out they’re believe aj beats him. People can’t accept how a man that size can do what he does, because it’s not always easy on the eye, people disregard it.

Would love to see how you can counter this argument with you’re own facts and “receipts”? I believe people call it nowadays in the states?

So you got really good odds on a specific type of outcome? What were the odds on win/lose overall? Every article I pull up all say it was a pick-em fight meaning it was a toss up and there was no clear cut favorite or underdog. If I look at Vegas casinos and check their odds they all had it the same way. It was a 50/50 fight maybe slightly in favor of one fighter or the other but it there was no clear cut favorite or underdog.

This is all based on a straight up win/lose scenario. Betting on a specific outcome of course will always have different odds and you will almost never see a 50/50 scenario for a round 7 KO.

[RoadMan94]

So you got really good odds on a specific type of outcome? What were the odds on win/lose overall? Every article I pull up all say it was a pick-em fight meaning it was a toss up and there was no clear cut favorite or underdog. If I look at Vegas casinos and check their odds they all had it the same way. It was a 50/50 fight maybe slightly in favor of one fighter or the other but it there was no clear cut favorite or underdog.

This is all based on a straight up win/lose scenario. Betting on a specific outcome of course will always have different odds and you will almost never see a 50/50 scenario for a round 7 KO.

Had I just bet on fury outright? Is that what you mean? I’m like 85% sure for fury to just win outright, with no specific method of Victory, the odds in store was either 3 or 4 to 1

Wilder was the betting favourite. I don’t wanna give you odds from online over here, because they’re always boosted and all that 💩 Only reason I bet in first place was because the Missus is obsessed with the number 7! And she wanted to bet on it. (She knows nothing about boxing)

I certainly know what you’re saying though. I guess sometimes it’s where everyone is going for their information, if I make any sense? But one thing I’ll say what does maybe strengthen you’re opinion is that It was very split , the pundits/Expert opinion I mean.

I just feel like, fans wise, Casual fans didn’t give fury a prayer, and hardcore fans probably either felt or atleast knew differently. People are enamoured with Knockouts.

PPV Wise, us 24/7 Fans don’t like it, but it’s mainly the Casuals that the promoters earn biggest from. Most PPV are bought by them.

Simply more of them than us. And with them, everyone was coming to witness fury get his head punched into row Z. That was how I felt.

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This is correct. Apart from people who really understand boxing, maybe they did, but nobody In mainstream media/ public had fury as a favourite in those said fights.

Fury has always struggled to receive the credit he deserves. To proper boxing fans, he’s likely been favourite in lots of fights. And to himself he’s the favourite. But anybody who even for one minute thinks that Tyson fury will struggle with the tag of “Favourite” obviously aren’t too well educated in this sport.

If people go back and ACTUALLY do some research, one would find that from a VERY EARLY Stage, fury had called for wladimir. He did everything possible, and Klitschko knew it was coming, as fury got himself highly ranked in Multiple Orgs, the call outs became more frequent.

When this was occurring, the public , (mainly British,Americans didn’t know him this point) Laughed and mocked. When the fight was made, the pressure on fury was ENERMOUS, he had talked all this rubbish about Wlad, how easy he’s gonna make it look, in the lions den, the champs back yard.

Tyson went out their and bossed the whole fight, clowned Klitschko, dropped his hands, just played with him. Best way to put it, played with the best heavyweight of an era in his own “Back garden.”

One may argue, “they’re was no pressure On him, he was an underdog, he could of come again!” Let’s look at some facts?
Tyson Fury in 2015

Promoter- Hennessy (Tiny,Cashless company)

6ft9” Switch hitting Heavyweight with footwork like a super middleweight.

No powerful manager/Promoter
Disliked by own nation.
Racially discriminated against.
Most skilled heavyweight out of the bunch (maybe unknown at that time)

Factor all that, alongside the wild claims he made about how he was going to win, the pressure on the man was ENERMOUS. Had he lost that fight, that would of been it, he wouldn’t of ever ate at the big dog table again. Why? All the reasons above.

Wlad didn’t give a VOLUNTARY defence to Fury. And who was going too? He’s not worth anything, impossible to even look good against. Tougher And more skilled than people (Casual Fans)understood.

So if you think, because a bookie now making Tyson a Favourite, which by the way, will likely NOT Be the case on fight week, is going to affect him, than I think you’re not really absorbing what you see.

Maybe think about everything again, hopefully you’ll understand that the pressure is no bigger nor smaller, wether he’s underdog or not. Doesn’t matter. It’s really irrelevant.

Point is, to himself HE IS THE FAVORITE. he never looks surprised when he’s won does he? The Pressure put on himself is enough. But this is the issue.

What Places Fury from most is this: Hes not Afraid to LOSE!! It’s just a fight. You could get floored on a night out for nothing!! He’s bred to fight. Are you from America? I’d respectfully ask you to research the travelling community. And from all sides, theirs different travellers, all bred to fight. The pressure of his family’s name is bigger than any bookie.

Research the sport mate. These are silly questions. And it’s silly to genuinely believe it’s going to affect anybody. Fury nor AJ. And I mean that with as much respect and as polite as possible.

I cannot really be bothered debating, but I will give you a few points.

1: Tyson Fury has never been a bare knuckle fighter, so I have zero idea why? You are trying to play him off as some sort of Lenny Mclean type fighter. Tyson Fury from a young age was wrapped in cotton wool by his family 'Who are well respected in their community'. Tyson Fury has not lived that type of life mate, he has probably never been in a childhood fight. Tyson Fury was protected and nurtured by his family etc

2: It is one thing THINKING that you are the favorite, and another thing actually being the favorite. Tyson Fury has never EVER in his boxing career experienced, what it is like to be a favorite at elite level 'He has not experienced the atmosphere and environment of that type of status'.

I am not categorically saying that it is going to affect him but? The points I make are, valid talking points.

Note: Being favorite has nothing to do with the betting shop odds, it is the atmosphere and environment you experience from day to day. Anthony Joshua since he turned professional, has not only had the weight of his own exceptions on his shoulders 'Millions of people have also expected him to perform, and held him to a extremely high standard'.

Tyson Fury has never experienced that kind of pressure. For 90% of his career he was mocked and viewed as a clown 'It was only really around the Martin Rogan & Derek Chisora rematch was he given credit for his genus.

When Tyson Fury faces Anthony Joshua he will be the favorite. That atmosphere I am talking about, is already dispersing throughout the air 'Tyson Fury is expected to win, and Joshua is just the afraid manufactured heavyweight'.

I make Tyson Fury the favorite in this match up, and on current form 'I also think he beats Anthony Joshua'.

[Sid-Knee]

I thought he did brilliantly when getting up against wladimir. Was fantastic to watch. Very fun fight. I enjoyed every round. I was trying to point out I feel he’s limited. But you instantly went personal straight away. Like you usually do. Won’t be getting the reaction you want from me anymore. Look elsewhere.

Getting up from knockdowns has nothing to do with how limited you are or aren't. So that actually makes no sense. That wasn't the point you were making.

I get personal, like i "Always do"??? Hmmmm. I thought you didn't know who i was? I'll find out who you are eventually.

You still didn't answer my initial question... When did AJ duck the Cruiserweight Usyk? It isn't that hard to answer. Especially since you made the bullshlt comment in the first place.

Americans deflect all the time like you're doing right now. But tell me, where in the UK are you from? You're from the UK aren't you?

[RoadMan94]

I cannot really be bothered debating, but I will give you a few points.

1: Tyson Fury has never been a bare knuckle fighter, so I have zero idea why? You are trying to play him off as some sort of Lenny Mclean type fighter. Tyson Fury from a young age was wrapped in cotton wool by his family 'Who are well respected in their community'. Tyson Fury has not lived that type of life mate, he has probably never been in a childhood fight. Tyson Fury was protected and nurtured by his family etc

2: It is one thing THINKING that you are the favorite, and another thing actually being the favorite. Tyson Fury has never EVER in his boxing career experienced, what it is like to be a favorite at elite level 'He has not experienced the atmosphere and environment of that type of status'.

I am not categorically saying that it is going to affect him but? The points I make are, valid talking points.

Note: Being favorite has nothing to do with the betting shop odds, it is the atmosphere and environment you experience from day to day. Anthony Joshua since he turned professional, has not only had the weight of his own exceptions on his shoulders 'Millions of people have also expected him to perform, and held him to a extremely high standard'.

Tyson Fury has never experienced that kind of pressure. For 90% of his career he was mocked and viewed as a clown 'It was only really around the Martin Rogan & Derek Chisora rematch was he given credit for his genus.

When Tyson Fury faces Anthony Joshua he will be the favorite. That atmosphere I am talking about, is already dispersing throughout the air 'Tyson Fury is expected to win, and Joshua is just the afraid manufactured heavyweight'.

I make Tyson Fury the favorite in this match up, and on current form 'I also think he beats Anthony Joshua'.

But I’m trying to tell you that the point isn’t valid. It’s means nothing. If it was wrote on paper I’d wipe my backside with it. Nobody cares really how someone feels over been a favourite or underdog. He’s had as much pressure you can get on the biggest stage possible 3times for exact. Not once has he crumbles. Gtfo with ya pointless Bollox what means naff all.

Why you’d even worry about such a topic is beyond me as a man. If you aren’t saying it will affect him, why ya going on mad ones telling us how he hasn’t ever dealt with it?

Bro he has dealt with it! Did you not read what I put? Did you not watch him in Germany? He had more pressure as an underdog. That’s what YOU Aren’t accepting.

People go off what someone did at a certain level. It’s like a bird going on about who’s an underdog. Next you’ll wonder what colour his shorts and gloves will be? Nobody cares.

Just like Joshua won’t be any different if when he’s the underdog. It means nothing. Doesn’t affect em whatsoever.

You are trying to imply that EVERYTIME fury fights a top guy it’s a free shot, with 0 pressure on the line?

Give ya head a **** mush. Honestly. How old are you? I’m not trying to be muggy I’m been genuine? How old are you? Hopefully you a young young bull talking about nonsense like this.

I’ve proven to you that the Wlad fight was massive pressure. That’s bigger than been a favourite against Joshua.

Guess what? Nobody cares about what America thinks. So in this country, England, it’s a 50-50fight. There is no favorite. And if there was a poll I bet the fans would vote AJ. More casuals tune in then hardcore fans.

I’d presume their would be more pressure, fighting the most dominant heavyweight champion, in his back yard, with 50,000 Germans all wanting youre blood, in a fight EVERYBODY wants you to lose, so that you can be blackballed out the sport, and never given a chance at world level again.

Compared with been a favourite to win. It’s possibly undisputed title fight, bragging rights for life on the line. It’s proven he thrives on pressure.

I swear boxing ain’t even need new fans, if this is the type of **** that gains attention
#Pathetic. #Cringe. #WTF

[RoadMan94]

Getting up from knockdowns has nothing to do with how limited you are or aren't. So that actually makes no sense. That wasn't the point you were making.

I get personal, like i "Always do"??? Hmmmm. I thought you didn't know who i was? I'll find out who you are eventually.

You still didn't answer my initial question... When did AJ duck the Cruiserweight Usyk? It isn't that hard to answer. Especially since you made the bullshlt comment in the first place.

Americans deflect all the time like you're doing right now. But tell me, where in the UK are you from? You're from the UK aren't you?

What are you talking about? I said to you he did get up! Because YOU Cried like a girl over Joshua getting up. So I thought I’d give him some praise.

He avoided Usyk, when he signed to fight Pulev. He had two Mandos ordered. At this point Usyk had KO Bellew and was at HW. Looked amazing, Joshua had just won his belts back after having the biggest scare of his life.

He convinced Usyk to let him fight Pulev first. Eddie and Barry are both on record saying they CHOSE PULEV. So are sky sports. So is Alexander Krassyuk. That’s why Usyk got so impatient and is now saying he wants his shot.

So that was when they avoided Usyk. And now Usyk looks less effective here, they wanna fight. Chisora, Bellew, Whyte were all pawns in eddies game, take a look at potential opps for AJ, whilst risking dudes he’s less bothered about, make less money.

I said about you getting personal, because after you’re comment, I went and scrolled through and read some posts by you. And saw you’re track record.

I’ve enjoyed tearing you a new 💩 hole! It’s been thoroughly enjoying. And I LOVE How I’m in you’re head rent free 😂

I’m the GREATEST. OH YOU SEE ME?? I BET YOU WISH YOU KNEW WHO I WAS! But who am I? Keep guessing big guy 😂 who’s alt am I? That’s the biggest worry you’ve got right now ain’t it?

Think you’d actually know though wouldn’t you? Because for you to even claim I’m an alt of someone else, shows you have had personal arguments with LOTS of people. As you can’t work out which one I am? 😂 GoodNight! Left you’re school uniform on you’re bedroom door for morning.
Don’t wake ME or you’re MOM up either, we had a long night of her milking me down her throat. She the THROAT GOAT!! 🥛 💦 It’s 1am where I am. 😘 💋 Night Son. 😂

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What are you talking about? I said to you he did get up! Because YOU Cried like a girl over Joshua getting up. So I thought I’d give him some praise.

He avoided Usyk, when he signed to fight Pulev. He had two Mandos ordered. At this point Usyk had KO Bellew and was at HW. Looked amazing, Joshua had just won his belts back after having the biggest scare of his life.

He convinced Usyk to let him fight Pulev first. Eddie and Barry are both on record saying they CHOSE PULEV. So are sky sports. So is Alexander Krassyuk. That’s why Usyk got so impatient and is now saying he wants his shot.

So that was when they avoided Usyk. And now Usyk looks less effective here, they wanna fight. Chisora, Bellew, Whyte were all pawns in eddies game, take a look at potential opps for AJ, whilst risking dudes he’s less bothered about, make less money.

I said about you getting personal, because after you’re comment, I went and scrolled through and read some posts by you. And saw you’re track record.

I’ve enjoyed tearing you a new 💩 hole! It’s been thoroughly enjoying. And I LOVE How I’m in you’re head rent free 😂

I’m the GREATEST. OH YOU SEE ME?? I BET YOU WISH YOU KNEW WHO I WAS! But who am I? Keep guessing big guy 😂 who’s alt am I? That’s the biggest worry you’ve got right now ain’t it?

Think you’d actually know though wouldn’t you? Because for you to even claim I’m an alt of someone else, shows you have had personal arguments with LOTS of people. As you can’t work out which one I am? 😂 GoodNight! Left you’re school uniform on you’re bedroom door for morning.
Don’t wake ME or you’re MOM up either, we had a long night of her milking me down her throat. She the THROAT GOAT!! 🥛 💦 It’s 1am where I am. 😘 💋 Night Son. 😂

You seem irritated after nothing more than a basic post from me. You feeling alright? Haha.

AJ would have lost the IBF title had he gone for Usyk. Eddie knew he could talk Usyk round to make sure AJ kept all his titles. Nothing more, nothing less. But i asked you for the date? Why are straight forward questions so hard for you?

Where in the UK are you from? You claim to be from the UK? So, tell me where abouts?

[RoadMan94]

You seem irritated after nothing more than a basic post from me. You feeling alright? Haha.

AJ would have lost the IBF title had he gone for Usyk. Eddie knew he could talk Usyk round to make sure AJ kept all his titles. Nothing more, nothing less. But i asked you for the date? Why are straight forward questions so hard for you?

Where in the UK are you from? You claim to be from the UK? So, tell me where abouts?

You’ve got the facts. Go google the info I gave you.

Funny how he would of lost the IBF too. But he would rather fight Pulev. Because he had just got his belts back, and wanted an easy old man. Anybody with sense knows that. I get annoyed with fan girls like ya self who don’t know anything. 😂 but I just laugh it off. Because I clowned you so bad last night it’s unreal. 😂the amount of messages saying thanks for tearing into you is worth any irritations. See ya later ****roach