Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua KOs Pulev With The Weight Of A Fury Bout On His Shoulders

[Silver Spear]

If you would of experience reality during the build up to the fight? You would of known that Tyson Fury was not the favorite to win. Many boxing experts were terrified for Tyson Fury, Wilder's reputation was at fever pitch 'Nobody was really certain of a Fury victory'.

Tyson Fury has never been favorite at elite level, he has been mocked and viewed as a clown for 90% of his career within the UK 'Mocked due to his gypsy heritage, by closet racists etc'.

But you have admitted yourself that this was all British "experts" saying this. Honestly I could not care less what any boxing expert says. I personally had Fury as the favorite and AGAIN if you look at the betting lines you would see that almost everyone had it a 50/50 fight MEANING that Fury was not the clear cut underdog. Does that mean he was the favorite to win in their eyes? No. I am saying they had it almost dead even on the outcome. I had him as the favorite. "Experts" get it wrong all the time. I fail to see why you keep arguing that Fury was not the favorite when I am not claiming that he was by your "experts".

[Silver Spear]

AJ got up after every KD too. But you've got a completely different view when judging them, haven't you?

And you're not a backwards fan-boy who is a complete hypocrite? How old are you you prized f3cking idiot? 11? It looks like it to me.

AJ does have a lot of heart but that will only get you so far. The human body has limits no matter how much will power and heart you have. AJ still lacks proper defense especially when he is stunned he just freezes like deer in headlights.

[PRINCEKOOL]

But you have admitted yourself that this was all British "experts" saying this. Honestly I could not care less what any boxing expert says. I personally had Fury as the favorite and AGAIN if you look at the betting lines you would see that almost everyone had it a 50/50 fight MEANING that Fury was not the clear cut underdog. Does that mean he was the favorite to win in their eyes? No. I am saying they had it almost dead even on the outcome. I had him as the favorite. "Experts" get it wrong all the time. I fail to see why you keep arguing that Fury was not the favorite when I am not claiming that he was by your "experts".

So Tyson Fury has never been favorite for any fight at elite level, against a elite level opponent 'That is what we can take from this discussion'.

Meanwhile, Anthony Joshua has been favorite for every single fight of his professional career. Only now in the mass public opinion, is he the underdog up against Tyson Fury etc.

When Tyson Fury faces Anthony Joshua, for the first time in his career at elite level 'Will he be the favorite, and the good guy in the match up' Tyson Fury will no longer be playing his favorite character as Robin Hood the Prince of thieves.

Note: You attempted to make out on this thread? That Tyson Fury has been favorite at elite level, when in reality? He has never experienced that kind of pressure. Tyson Fury has always been the underdog, he has always been David going up against Goliath. Even going back to when Fury signed to fight David Haye, once again Tyson Fury was the underdog etc

[RoadMan94]

AJ got up after every KD too. But you've got a completely different view when judging them, haven't you?

And you're not a backwards fan-boy who is a complete hypocrite? How old are you you prized f3cking idiot? 11? It looks like it to me.

I thought he did brilliantly when getting up against wladimir. Was fantastic to watch. Very fun fight. I enjoyed every round. I was trying to point out I feel he’s limited. But you instantly went personal straight away. Like you usually do. Won’t be getting the reaction you want from me anymore. Look elsewhere.

[Silver Spear]

So Tyson Fury has never been favorite for any fight at elite level, against a elite level opponent 'That is what we can take from this discussion'.

Meanwhile, Anthony Joshua has been favorite for every single fight of his professional career. Only now in the mass public opinion, is he the underdog up against Tyson Fury etc.

When Tyson Fury faces Anthony Joshua, for the first time in his career at elite level 'Will he be the favorite, and the good guy in the match up' Tyson Fury will no longer be playing his favorite character as Robin Hood the Prince of thieves.

Note: You attempted to make out on this thread? That Tyson Fury has been favorite at elite level, when in reality? He has never experienced that kind of pressure. Tyson Fury has always been the underdog, he has always been David going up against Goliath. Even going back to when Fury signed to fight David Haye, once again Tyson Fury was the underdog etc

What I attempted to do is disprove to you that Tyson Fury has not always been the underdog in high profile fights. I gave you the perfect example of the Wilder rematch where it was a clear 50/50 fight by all betting odds makers.

[RoadMan94]

I wouldn't worry too much about what Fury says. 50% of it is embellished, and the rest isn't true.

Right. So instead of listening to the man who received the blows along with the guy who throws them, I should in turn take what you tell me as the absaloute gospel truth?

Next you’ll say wilder doesn’t even hit as hard as people say? But you don’t offer any sort of fact or stat, which could help you’re case. It’s just opinion so you should make clear. Instead of going around trying to tell people with absolute certainty like you have some sort of first hand knowledge, nobody else here had!

[PRINCEKOOL]

What I attempted to do is disprove to you that Tyson Fury has not always been the underdog in high profile fights. I gave you the perfect example of the Wilder rematch where it was a clear 50/50 fight by all betting odds makers.

Tyson Fury has never been a favorite at elite level 'That is pretty much the main point that was being highlighted by me in this thread'.

You have not given me or anybody else a perfect example in this thread about anything.

Tyson Fury was the underdog vs Wladimir Kiltschko, underdog vs David Haye, still the underdog vs Wilder in both fights 'Only now maybe when he faces Joshua, will he be the clear favorite' etc.

[Toffee]

Right. So instead of listening to the man who received the blows along with the guy who throws them, I should in turn take what you tell me as the absaloute gospel truth?

Next you’ll say wilder doesn’t even hit as hard as people say? But you don’t offer any sort of fact or stat, which could help you’re case. It’s just opinion so you should make clear. Instead of going around trying to tell people with absolute certainty like you have some sort of first hand knowledge, nobody else here had!

I saw the punches. And I saw the result, that Fury got up in a good state and was able to carry on. I've got nothing to gain from my view of the punches.

Why would you instead take the opinion of people who clearly have something to gain? Fury wants to build into the "can't be knocked out" idea. Wilder needed people to believe that he could find the one shot against Fury in a rematch. They were building the rematch.

They weren't as devastating as made out.

Let's take your idea further... should we believe Wilder's excuses? After all, it was him who experienced it, not us.

[RoadMan94]

What I attempted to do is disprove to you that Tyson Fury has not always been the underdog in high profile fights. I gave you the perfect example of the Wilder rematch where it was a clear 50/50 fight by all betting odds makers.

But that’s not true. In England, in Store- Coral Betting shop. I had Fury to win by KO/TKO Round 7. I got 13-1 because I put 20 and won 260! I basically picked rounds 3 7 and 9 on three bets. But for some reason backed the 7th mostly. Put £5 on 3 and 9 each just in case.

Fury was underdog. It was not 50/50. And when we talking about “experts” and fans? The general consensus was that Wilder was gonna KO fury, and that the 12th round of fight one showed he had figured out Tyson.

They’re was a small number that was arguing that Tyson, after getting up, beat wilder up and that he would do same.

Nobody, especially on here, believed fury would fight way he did. The WBC Themselves showed no respect to fury and made clear they want to help make AJ-FURY.

The very same website we is all on now? They ran an article fight week, basically telling us how fury is in the way of the super fight we all want, wilder needs to do what he does, KO fury and let’s get the undisputed.

I’ve tried to give you a couple of credible sources/ pieces of Proof that fury was indeed the underdog going in against wilder in fight one and two.

Truth is EVERYTIME fury fights at very top level he’s the underdog. Even to this day people out they’re believe aj beats him. People can’t accept how a man that size can do what he does, because it’s not always easy on the eye, people disregard it.

Would love to see how you can counter this argument with you’re own facts and “receipts”? I believe people call it nowadays in the states?

[RoadMan94]

Tyson Fury has never been a favorite at elite level 'That is pretty much the main point that was being highlighted by me in this thread'.

You have not given me or anybody else a perfect example in this thread about anything.

Tyson Fury was the underdog vs Wladimir Kiltschko, underdog vs David Haye, still the underdog vs Wilder in both fights 'Only now maybe when he faces Joshua, will he be the clear favorite' etc.

This is correct. Apart from people who really understand boxing, maybe they did, but nobody In mainstream media/ public had fury as a favourite in those said fights.

Fury has always struggled to receive the credit he deserves. To proper boxing fans, he’s likely been favourite in lots of fights. And to himself he’s the favourite. But anybody who even for one minute thinks that Tyson fury will struggle with the tag of “Favourite” obviously aren’t too well educated in this sport.

If people go back and ACTUALLY do some research, one would find that from a VERY EARLY Stage, fury had called for wladimir. He did everything possible, and Klitschko knew it was coming, as fury got himself highly ranked in Multiple Orgs, the call outs became more frequent.

When this was occurring, the public , (mainly British,Americans didn’t know him this point) Laughed and mocked. When the fight was made, the pressure on fury was ENERMOUS, he had talked all this rubbish about Wlad, how easy he’s gonna make it look, in the lions den, the champs back yard.

Tyson went out their and bossed the whole fight, clowned Klitschko, dropped his hands, just played with him. Best way to put it, played with the best heavyweight of an era in his own “Back garden.”

One may argue, “they’re was no pressure On him, he was an underdog, he could of come again!” Let’s look at some facts?
Tyson Fury in 2015

Promoter- Hennessy (Tiny,Cashless company)

6ft9” Switch hitting Heavyweight with footwork like a super middleweight.

No powerful manager/Promoter
Disliked by own nation.
Racially discriminated against.
Most skilled heavyweight out of the bunch (maybe unknown at that time)

Factor all that, alongside the wild claims he made about how he was going to win, the pressure on the man was ENERMOUS. Had he lost that fight, that would of been it, he wouldn’t of ever ate at the big dog table again. Why? All the reasons above.

Wlad didn’t give a VOLUNTARY defence to Fury. And who was going too? He’s not worth anything, impossible to even look good against. Tougher And more skilled than people (Casual Fans)understood.

So if you think, because a bookie now making Tyson a Favourite, which by the way, will likely NOT Be the case on fight week, is going to affect him, than I think you’re not really absorbing what you see.

Maybe think about everything again, hopefully you’ll understand that the pressure is no bigger nor smaller, wether he’s underdog or not. Doesn’t matter. It’s really irrelevant.

Point is, to himself HE IS THE FAVORITE. he never looks surprised when he’s won does he? The Pressure put on himself is enough. But this is the issue.

What Places Fury from most is this: Hes not Afraid to LOSE!! It’s just a fight. You could get floored on a night out for nothing!! He’s bred to fight. Are you from America? I’d respectfully ask you to research the travelling community. And from all sides, theirs different travellers, all bred to fight. The pressure of his family’s name is bigger than any bookie.

Research the sport mate. These are silly questions. And it’s silly to genuinely believe it’s going to affect anybody. Fury nor AJ. And I mean that with as much respect and as polite as possible.