Wilder knocked Tyson fury OUT, so why can’t AJ?!

[PRINCEKOOL]

And AJ doesn't have as good of a chin as Wilder either.

Wilder was bounced about the ring by Tyson Fury, shook badly continually by Tyson Fury in the second fight 'Although yes he was fighting back at the time of the stoppage'.

Neither Fury, Wilder or Joshua have immense punch resistance. But it must be pointed out? That Joshua did get up off the deck to beat Kiltschko, who detonated a harder punch than what Wilder landed on Fury in my opinion etc

I would say Fury has the best punch resistance out of the 3, Wilder seems to be the most game, he has a primitive type gameness, and then Joshua has a level of gameness himself etc

Joshua's power is hard to gauge, I don't think he is hitting with the same kind of force he was pre- Andy Ruiz Junior 'He has sacrifice certain area's of his game'.

[_Rexy_]

Wilder was bounced about the ring by Tyson Fury, shook badly continually by Tyson Fury in the second fight 'Although yes he was fighting back at the time of the stoppage'.

Neither Fury, Wilder or Joshua have immense punch resistance. But it must be pointed out? That Joshua did get up off the deck to beat Kiltschko, who detonated a harder punch than what Wilder landed on Fury in my opinion etc

I would say Fury has the best punch resistance out of the 3, Wilder seems to be the most game, he has a primitive type gameness, and then Joshua has a level of gameness himself etc

Joshua's power is hard to gauge, I don't think he is hitting with the same kind of force he was pre- Andy Ruiz Junior 'He has sacrifice certain area's of his game'.

IMO Fury has the best recovery, Joshua has the worst. On more than one occasion we've seen Joshua take multiple rounds to get his legs back, where Fury can bounce back from a KD and win the round.

[Toffee]

IMO Fury has the best recovery, Joshua has the worst. On more than one occasion we've seen Joshua take multiple rounds to get his legs back, where Fury can bounce back from a KD and win the round.

Joshua's recovery time worries me, but then I saw the shots he got hit with by Klitschko and Ruiz - both were fight enders.

Fury obviously recovered well against Wilder, but the right hand wasn't clean and just caught him off balance. The following left was clean but he was falling away.

I'm not sure we really have enough evidence of their respective ability to take a shot. Nether have been in enough wars.

Joshua pre Ruiz was too open to devastating punches. I think he's improved now.

Fury has always been hard to hit well.

[PRINCEKOOL]

IMO Fury has the best recovery, Joshua has the worst. On more than one occasion we've seen Joshua take multiple rounds to get his legs back, where Fury can bounce back from a KD and win the round.

Wilder seems to stay hurt, but battles on through it 'There is a ignorance about him, I have seen this same kind of trait wthin Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora.

I don't think Joshua's and Fury's punch resistance threshold is that different, but it is how they react when they are both hurt 'Kiltschko in my opinion hit Joshua with a more devastating punch, than what Wilder landed on Fury' It was clearly a superior technically delivered punch by Kiltschko.

Go and watch the Joshua vs Whyte fight, Joshua was being hit in that fight but? His demeanor and reactions were totally different to what he displays now inside of the ring etc

[_Rexy_]

Wilder seems to stay hurt, but battles on through it 'There is a ignorance about him, I have seen this same kind of trait wthin Dillian Whyte and Derek Chisora.

I don't think Joshua's and Fury's punch resistance threshold is that different, but it is how they react when they are both hurt 'Kiltschko in my opinion hit Joshua with a more devastating punch, than what Wilder landed on Fury' It was clearly a superior technically delivered punch by Kiltschko.

Go and watch the Joshua vs Whyte fight, Joshua was being hit in that fight but? His demeanor and reactions were totally different to what he displays now inside of the ring etc

The Whyte fight was partially what I was referring to. Whyte rocked him and Joshua took about a round to get his legs back under him. Obviously the Ruiz fight is the one we all remember, but the signs were there before hand. Had Wlad not pulled back after the KD, he would have stopped AJ IMO.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The Whyte fight was partially what I was referring to. Whyte rocked him and Joshua took about a round to get his legs back under him. Obviously the Ruiz fight is the one we all remember, but the signs were there before hand. Had Wlad not pulled back after the KD, he would have stopped AJ IMO.

He was smiling, laughing and joking throughout that entire fight, but of course he was hurt.

For some reason Joshua has been severely affected by the Ruiz Junior experience 'Some fighters may recover from such a loss 100%. While others may carry aspects of that experience with them, which will then mold their organism.

Remember Miguel Cotto before his loss to Margarito? I was convinced Miguel Cotto was a cybernetic organism, but that all change after he suffered against Margarito.

Note: But is it really a bad thing that certain experiences and events mold fighters? In some aspects Joshua could well be a better fighter than he was before, I have no idea. I do feel like he is still going through a recovery process, he is toiling with the Dragon.

[_Rexy_]

He was smiling and laughing and joking throughout that entire fight, but of course he was hurt.

For some reason Joshua has been severely affected by the Ruiz Junior experience 'Some fighters may recover from such a loss 100%. While others may carry aspects of that experience with them, which will then mold their organism.

Remember Miguel Cotto before his loss to Margarito? I was convinced Miguel Cotto was a cybernetic organism, but that all change after he suffered against Margarito.

Note: But is it really a bad thing that certain experiences and events mold fighters? In some aspects Joshua could well be a better fighter than he was before, I have no idea. I do feel like he is still going through a recovery process, he is toiling with the Dragon.

I've actually always contested that a fighters chin was partially mental. That said, It's been a while since I saw the Joshua/Whyte fight, but I do remember Joshua being hurt at one point.


But it's one thing to learn from a loss, and another thing to doubt yourself because of the loss.

[Chinned]

Styles make fights. Joshua is less likely to land that huge, unpredictable shot than Wilder, but he also won't be absolutely mauled like Wilder was in the rematch.

Plus Fury was obviously nowhere near as sharp for Wilder 1 as he was for Wilder 2.

[Earl-Hickey]

He was smiling and laughing and joking throughout that entire fight, but of course he was hurt.

For some reason Joshua has been severely affected by the Ruiz Junior experience 'Some fighters may recover from such a loss 100%. While others may carry aspects of that experience with them, which will then mold their organism.

Remember Miguel Cotto before his loss to Margarito? I was convinced Miguel Cotto was a cybernetic organism, but that all change after he suffered against Margarito.

Note: But is it really a bad thing that certain experiences and events mold fighters? In some aspects Joshua could well be a better fighter than he was before, I have no idea. I do feel like he is still going through a recovery process, he is toiling with the Dragon.

Lewis was tentetive for several fights after the mccall one he eventually got his groove back, I think AJ took steps towards getting his back vs Pulev, is he ready for Fury next up idk

[jmrf4435]

Wilder knocked fury spark out in the first fight, and any other day and any other ref and it gets waved off.

AJ has just as good punching power maybe a bit less but has the accuracy, timing, precision, boxing skills that wilder doesn’t.

AJ is going to walk through fury inside 3 rounds. AJ won’t fall for that jerky movement nonsense he does, he won’t try to box like he’s done the past couple fights, he will become a brawler and go for fury and fury has a suspect chin.

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if fury were 'KONOCKED OUT" he would not have got up. PERIOD